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You asked, we delivered - starting next week we'll be delivering one full hardcore set to you, each week!
Please help us, help you by spreading the news of this site far and wide. The more members we have, the more content we can shoot!
Thanks
This may be the best news I heard all year. Nice to see that polling works.
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Originally Posted by seanchai
Shyeah....which means one whiteboy per week on a site that brags about black in black hardcore. Thanks seanchai. *rolls eyes*
Don't be an arsehole.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
Where is the bragging?
Read other posts on this forum regarding this.
We've black on black hardcore on this site, we've more coming but at least 50% of the site doesn't care either way.
If your ready to perform, then send in your photos and location. I won't put black male performers on here wearing masks if they are that embarressed to be with a tgirl.
Bro why even bother? If u know you're doing what u can do, fuck the haters!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
lmao it was kinda funny though. Im over here cracking up.
Yeah you knew what was coming with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
Dude, your free galleries has advertisments that seem to cater to black men....but yet you have few black male performers. That's where im getting at. A huge contradiction to what the ads say. And so what if the guy wants to wear a mask...if the tgirls dont care and yall still making money, then whats the problem???? Many of the same ones who do hardcore (american) are the same ones who would fuck on third-party websites with a brotha with a mask. So again whats the problem???Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Oh yeah, 50 percent dont care (on this forum or your subscribers?) but another 50 does. Why dont you ask all those models from yum if they would like to do a scene with a black man. I would like to hear their responses.
And because i work for a federal job, no i cant send my resume to you. Another time, maybe?
Oh really?! You know what he can do? If not then go fuck yourself bro, youll be a horrible business man.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKnockOut
Adverts are for men that want to see American Black Tgirls, I seriously doubt you can show an ad specifically talking about American Black Men on the site. If you are so worked up about seeing black men in porn I can direct you to some gay websites... I don't understand why some guys make such a big deal about what the men in porn look like. They can be white, black, fat, skinny, hairy, bald, it really doesn't matter so long as he can fuck these beautiful Black Shemales well on camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
The girls do care, only being willing to be on camera with a TS by wearing a mask shows how much of a fucking closet caper the guy really is, it's fucking disrespectful to the models and to the industry to have such qualms. Those grown ass men need to quit worrying about what someone might say and perform like all other men in porn with their faces showing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
Nope, don't believe it. Please, show me proof of what models that perform HC on the Major sites, Grooby, Club, Strokers, Bob's, Kink etc that also perform HC on 3rd-party sites (whatever those are, solo sites I guess you mean? :confused: ) sorry but it sounds like you're talking out the side of your neckQuote:
Originally Posted by rainman
it always starts so innocently! :rolleyes:
Although I will admit he has a point with the mask stuff, but, I know i mentioned that in another thread.
All of my Yum models that want to do HC shoots have no problem performing with the only male performers I have which are black men, these men have enough respect for the business to show face. Let me know when Brian Pumper is only performing wearing mask on camera, or when women will only perform if they can wear mask. Fucking retarded, wearing mask, go to xtube with that amateur hour stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
My thoughts exactly*;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
I dont have a problem with the dudes wearing a mask. I mean you cant exactly come out looking like captain hook either, but just a regular mask seems ok to me.
It doesn't matter if the Viewer cares about a performer wearing a mask, THE MODELS CARE! Without the btg models there's nothing to film. Solo site girls that put up with those shenanigans do so because they have to settle for less to get the content out as 98% of their content is hardcore vids, maybe a few solos, but little to no new girls weekly to show off, or pictorials, or other producers around the country also submitting material so they have to get the content they can.Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
What is a regular mask by the way? Popular Halloween mask? Eyes Wide Shut mask? Paper-bag over the face mask? Stick 'em up, I'm a thug ski mask? what....
Everyone knows this is porn that is going on the World Wide Web, if a guy isn't comfortable with the World seeing him do porn, don't do porn! It's a silly fear anyway, nobody will stumble upon a hardcore black shemale porn shoot, without first searching for it, and if they are searching for it they obviously aren't going to have a problem with him being in it, he'd probably be their hero.
I'm not going to go down the mask route discussion again, it's just fucking stupid, infantile and absolutely not what we as a company are about.
To the OP - strangely enough, we've just put up two hardcores on Yum with black males doing the tgirls!
Also, where have we ever advertised to black men? We advertise to people wanting to see black tgirls, it's all inclusive. If we can get the performers we will but more black male performers have either been no-shows or flops, than not.
If figures you've a Federal job ... no manners.
Agreed.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
I dont give a fuck if you got on face paint. Im not there to see the guys face, but I understand what your saying though as far as the girls go, but fuck the bullshit about they can be "fat, skinny, bald, hairy...etc." ex: I know you'll remember that tall white dude that use to smash all the Asian chicks that was hairy as fuck and just ruined the whole scene. It's hilarious that you dont care what dude is in the scene as long as he's not wearing a mask. I cant tell you how many lubed up hairy asses ruined a clip for me. Sorry but hunchback of Notre Dame shouldnt qualify just because he doesnt have a mask on. HAHA
I think the Viewer is the customer without the customer their is no market for the Model. Please do not forget the customer and be so confident that your business can not be compromised. Eliminate the sensitivity here this is healthy dialougue for all beneficiaries of this business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
hmmm so what you are saying is that your ideal male performer has to be Black, in shape, good looking (to you), and he doesn't have to show an once of respect to the transexual model he is performing with? I will never let someone on set that is too embarrased to be seen with her. Wearing a mask is pure disrespectful, there are principals and there's no way around it. He isn't wearing a mask because it's a prop in the shoot to tell a story, but to specifically hide the fact that he likes transexuals and THAT I have a problem with! The adult industry is not the place for insecurities, if they are too scared to show their face, don't do porn. They should just make their little home movies that they hide away in a shoe book somewhere and hope their homeboys never stumble upon.Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
Now, if a guy shows up with Ron Jeremy looks, but has great charisma and chemsitry with the models (my guys do have to be liked by the models), can cum on command, stay hard for 1hr 1/2 + of filming, and has some decent human common courtesy I don't care what his race is, let's go have some fun filming. Performers (male, female, trans) have worked hard in this Adult Industry to earn the respect that they do have and I will not let some Down Low hypocrite infringe on that, so he can get his rocks off, not on my dime. There are plenty of black guys that are willing to film, and the guy I'm using is great, so glad to have met him. The girls love hanging with him off camera and he totally makes them feel comfortable. I do believe there are a few producers here making more and more content specifically with black on black action so the aire of change has blown and trust we will not have a masked 'zero' in play.
Damn I swear I've never heard 'straight' guys talk about the men in porn so much. It's sad and a bit funny that we even have to have this conversation of what is 'fundamentally' wrong with a man wearing a mask to do porn. Why should we, when there are men with better moral fiber. I like my main performer as a friend very much and thus will try to bring him as much business as I reasonably can, but I will not suffer the presence of someone who is comfortable enough to fuck a transexual but not be seen with her. So since you are so worried that my male performer will not live up to your visual expectations being that YOU say he can't be hairy, that is what you said right? Please tell me, should he shave his legs for you? Would you like me to film it? Want me to make sure he's had a mani and a pedi? Fresh edge up? Hot new Jordans? Is chest hair a problem? lol What is the criteria you are holding these black male performers to regarding his looks because we are trying and I do want to limit what you are complaining about as much as possible, I'm just not going to suffer a fool that wants to get on camera with a dunce cap.
lol whatever, the initial complaint was not enough american hardcore on this site. For months now we've ramped up production of hardcores on the site. Our most frequent HC producer Tony Vee uses latino men which, to me, are men of colour as well, though granted not black, but certainly pertaining to the same urban persona right? A while back, a non paying member started complaining about not enough black on black hardcore. We've taken steps to ramp up production of that as well. Just because a viewer feels we should use men too embarrased to be seen with transexuals doesn't mean they are right, and it's silly to think that I will sit here and pretend to consider doing so, especially when there are black men with basic respect for their fellow performers. And HELLO there is no other real major porn company catering to such foolishness either! Imagine being told that you have to wear a mask when you come into work, the co-workers don't want it known they have to work with a black man in their office. Don't worry though, the customers that buy our company products don't care how their employees are treated so just deal with it or quit. What are you, as a grown man going to do? Where does your integrity lay?Quote:
Originally Posted by iketurner
*To the posters that support such anonymous male porn actors, I apologize if I sound overly mean to you guys, but the concept and practice that you are demanding we adjust to is beyond frustrating, morally degrading, and only tolerated by a very small (3-6 independant solo site girls) portion of the Adult Industry. As an ethnic person, the problems with this should be blatantly obvious and yet you support it. Time to wake up people...*
Holy shit, look how much this thread has exploded. Im goingnto be to the point since im typing on my iphone.
Hey Rainman, let me just give you some advice man. I see that you're a BTG Newbie, which means that you've just joined the site. Well, welcome to Black T-Girls, happy that you've chosen to bring your insight to the forum, but just let me tell that if you intend to stay here and participate in the forums, you can not talk in the manner in which you're talking. The moderator WILL NOT allow that. That is the fastest way to get booted off the site. Apparently, you want to be here because if you didn't, you wouldn't have joined. So, let's excercise a little professionalism and tact and lets talk to people with respect. You don't have to be rude and obnoxious to get your point across here. Most of the participants on this site are very intelligent so there's no need to lower your standards to get your point across.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
Again, welcome to the forum bro. Hope you stay long enough to enjoy yourself.
Peace
Hey dont come at me with your double-standards, just because i "just" joined this site. Trust me, ive been around. That ws a underhanded remark yet you dont say anything about that. If this gets me banned so be it....but dont expect me to apologize for defending myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidman
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Originally Posted by iketurner
The viewer is the customer but without the models wanting to work for this site and feeling confident about working for this site then we have no product to sell. It's also not in our company ethos to be demeaning or disrespectful. Despite being a porn company, we can still further an agenda that transwomen in porn, should not be different from any other women working in porn. The wearing of a mask so you can't be identified, is certainly demeaning.
Further to what Remy stated, we wouldn't use ANY male performer. We get about 15 applicants or more a week. Out of them only about 5-6 are usable and in the right areas. Whether they come through or not is another matter.
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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
First off, you blew that way out of context. I never said anybody had to be black or this or that. I was one of the guys that said i didnt really care what race the guy is. But they still need to be well groomed, and i dont care whether your straight, bi, or gay, the appearance of the man in the scene does effect how we view it. You are misconstruing my comments to be in accordance with everyone else's. I said you should hold the same standards with everything. So no we dont wanna fuckin see Ron Jeremy fuckin anyone. That got played out in the 80's and 90's.
And are you saying he cant be passionate with a mask? =D lol
Ok well then, I do apologize. I have yet to hear a model complain about the guy having hair on his legs so I don't see why a guy watching porn is complaining either. All performers must show up properly groomed and cleaned but I don't consider a 'straight guy' grooming to extend to his legs, do you feel that he has to have either shaved or trimmed pubic hair too? We do have standards which is why mask are not allowed and no a model would never find a guy too scared to show his face as being passionate, that is just a creep. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
I feel you. Dude i just meant there's such a thing as too much. Hairy is ok with me, but when does hairy become "too" hairy. I'm not talking about just hair, just using it as an example. And when did i say anything about shaving armpits and legs? LMAO. That needs to be stricken from the record LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
I shall refrain from hiring Harry from the Hendersons. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
haha that works for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
lol... wow how things evolve here! I can understand the whole no mask stance as it refers to the girls feelings or the companies direction. But, to say all the girls don't want masks is just not true. and to say they all care either way is also not true. Some girls would like to have a sex scene with certain guys who don't have the option of being seen in porn, and would suggest a mask. I know this cause I was one such guy. Most girls know its not all about if somebody see who you're sexing as is the fact that your having sex on camera! Most porn guys are not full time actors, there is not that much work out here. So yes, Don Dong has to still teach 4th grade science during the week, Rock Bottom has to still advocate for gay rights, Colon Pound has to still tell kids to stay off drugs at outreach, and yes! TVSURFER has to still access-a-ride big momma to bingo on Tuesdays! In a nutshell, not everyone in the business can afford to have everyone know they are in the business, gay or straight! As for myself, I wouldn't give my ex-wife any ammunition for family court to take away my visitation! And if it wasn't for my extremely personal tats, I would have done it mask and all!
LMAO..... great stage name I wish i would have came up with that one..Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
What???:eek: Damn nycguy, don't tell everybody my business! I told you that shit in the strictness of confidence! :rolleyes: Oh, she has a car now! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
Great post brutha!
:cool:
Double standards? There are no double standards coming from me, this is our first conversation. I'm just trying to give you some words of advice. Oh well, suit yourself man. See you on some other site. Something tells me you won't be around her for long.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman
Got a million of them! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kilakali
Thx bro. Had to make my re-appearance a good one. Not sure if they have access-a-ride in the "D" But i think they got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVSURFER
Then Don, Colon and Rock can all go and open their own "GuysWhoAreAshamedToFuckTranniesButStillWantPaid.c om" website!Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
all that proves is that she already came to same conclusion many of these girls do, about getting continued sales from her site being more important than making an issue (to the men) about guys showing face cause she has to get content made one way or another. I've had many conversations with various solo site girls, and the ever on-going search for men to perform on camera is a pressing topic. Just working a mask into the story which at least makes things less odd is better than not filming at all. I've seen a girl or two skip out on getting copies of the guy's ID's and having them fill out the legal forms for producing porn, because they didn't want to scare the guy away. You did let her make photo-copies of your ID's right... j/k you don't have to answer that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
Interesting that you missed the point of that!?! :eek: You getting old big guy? ;) jaded and set in your ways like pop pop? :confused: You need access-a-ride? :p What I said was.... wait! Damnit! Seanchai, read my post again!!! lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Lol.. actually it never got that far, so no id's where needed. :p I do understand what you guys are saying, but that is a personal stance and not a business one. I spoke to a friend of mine about masks in videos and he said he see's it all the time, and he does not watch tranny or gay porn. And low and behold, here i am watching showtime late night and what do i see? some guy in a mask having sex! I almost wrote a scathing letter to them for doing something so shameful!! :rolleyes: lol.. I think some of you guys are tooooooooooo! focused on the gay=shame aspect of masks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
I understood it perfectly, even on the re-read. Maybe you've missed my point. We're not going to put guys in masks, on this site. It's not a discussion point.Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
hey I've been willing to do work with your company for a few years now