hardcore: top vs bottom

In a perfect porn world, we'd all be versatile, all ts porn would be shot from a vers perspective and girl on tgirl porn would be outlawed (kinda sad because I love pussy and some good tranny bottom but the combination makes me limper than a chinese lunch).
I am admittedly, an alpha male. I love being dominant, sexually, with a woman (although I do love getting my salad tossed...which my hetero friends regard as gay even if a woman does it to you...go figure). I love seeing women get fucked. I love seeing women go all out when having sex.
That being said, I won't discount the views of my brothers who prefer to see tgirls top guys. Although I get absolutely no pleasure from seeing a chick be a total top on vid, I think id be cool with seeing more ts top vids if the girls doing the fucking didn't revert back to their 'man' tendencies. I don't know, when I see a beautiful woman do overly mannish shit (telling dudes to 'give me that ass you little bitch' or seeing scenes where dudes give better head than the chick), it straddles too close to the 'this is gay' line for me.

Is there a happy medium for us or is it all about you're either gonna get vids with tops and a few with bottoms?

Are you a site member yet?

Frankly, I'd rather have the girls only as bottoms - which is what I'm into but I understand that many want the girls as tops also. Probably the best medium is to either
a) have one week girls as top next as bottoms
b) verstatile ... and use the FFW option!

Thanks for sharing that Seanchi...nice to have insights into the wizard behind the curtain...but I digress.

I share You & KO's affinity for the Bottom Girls preferably but have heard the arguments go back and forth. I would prefer if there was an option to search for Bottom Girls on the site profiles or even in images. But back to your question: a) would be my choice.

Just My 2 cents...:D

If you enjoy watching a man suck a tranny off MORE than you enjoy watching a woman suck a tranny off, I think that qualifies as gay. If you enjoy watching a tranny butt fuck a man more than you enjoy watching a tranny fuck a woman, that certainly is 100% gay. An entire genre of tranny porn doesn't exist that could have a market, that's the best "passable" and sexually skilled trannies fucking sexy urban model type female adult performers.

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Originally Posted by onone

If you enjoy watching a man suck a tranny off MORE than you enjoy watching a woman suck a tranny off, I think that qualifies as gay. If you enjoy watching a tranny butt fuck a man more than you enjoy watching a tranny fuck a woman, that certainly is 100% gay. An entire genre of tranny porn doesn't exist that could have a market, that's the best "passable" and sexually skilled trannies fucking sexy urban model type female adult performers.

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It's all gay - your a big poofter if your on this forum! :eek: or not - either way, labelling certainly doesn't have it's place here.

Take a guess WHY that genre of tranny porn doesn't exist and then send me all your savings and I'll demonstrate why.

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Originally Posted by onone

If you enjoy watching a man suck a tranny off MORE than you enjoy watching a woman suck a tranny off, I think that qualifies as gay. If you enjoy watching a tranny butt fuck a man more than you enjoy watching a tranny fuck a woman, that certainly is 100% gay. An entire genre of tranny porn doesn't exist that could have a market, that's the best "passable" and sexually skilled trannies fucking sexy urban model type female adult performers.

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I've been in this game for years my man, its made me an animal, its rules to this shit, I wrote me a manual. A step by step booklet, for you to get your game on track, not your wig pushed back.

#1 in the eyes of people who view ts as men, we are all gay. Its all man on man sex. We (dudes that fuck with ts) are the only ones that draw these imaginary boundaries as an attempt to find peace within our own selves. That's why I try not to discredit another man for liking to get dicked down by ts. I just say, it aint my thing.

#2 that untapped 'genre' you speak of, its been tried and it aint profitable at all. Lets say you have to pay a ts $600 for a video shoot and you have to pay the genetic girl $600 for the shoot, that's $1200 in model cost. Add in a nice hotel and incidentals and your looking at $1500 for one 15 to 25 minute video. What's in it for the photographer? No profit. Not to mention that most ts/genetic women scenes are lame. And trying to find quality urban girls that would be down for it would be hard as shit. Too much diggin for too few diamonds...

Do you mind if i butt in on this lol "Lady in the room" Hey guys please be gentle*
Im Sasha Strokes one of the models of grooby productions and im a Top girl. My opinion on this topic! Is that a man is man and a woman is a woman it shouldnt matter what postion the two partners play long as its fun and enjoyable for them and viewers and it shouldnt be a battle of bottoms vs top.. This is truely where the problem is long as the man knows he the male in the realationship and the female vice versa! And the sex is hot It should always come out a big bang! I understand this is porn and i acknowledge the fact its also a busniess and you to put out what the paying memebrs wanna see! But you also wanna put out good content they wanna see as well! But I believe the content should be fun and look enjoyable and more believable,I do not think it should look like work for pay! this is just my opinion plz dont take personal btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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Originally Posted by Sasha

Do you mind if i butt in on this lol "Lady in the room" Hey guys please be gentle*
Im Sasha Strokes one of the models of grooby productions and im a Top girl. My opinion on this topic! Is that a man is man and a woman is a woman it shouldnt matter what postion the two partners play long as its fun and enjoyable for them and viewers and it shouldnt be a battle of bottoms vs top.. This is truely where the problem is long as the man knows he the male in the realationship and the female vice versa! And the sex is hot It should always come out a big bang! I understand this is porn and i acknowledge the fact its also a busniess and you to put out what the paying memebrs wanna see! But you also wanna put out good content they wanna see as well! But I believe the content should be fun and look enjoyable and more believable,I do not think it should look like work for pay! this is just my opinion plz dont take personal btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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I'm with Sasha. I think the concept of "top" transsexuals is very sexy. It's almost like a contradiction or a sexy oxymoron. There's something mysterious about a beautiful woman who has all of the characteristics of a biological woman such as the sexy walk, the beautiful voice, the art of tease, the feminine body language....BUT...pulls out a functioning penis that responds the same as yours would respond if it was being manipulated. Any woman who is not afraid or ashamed to be who they are is absolutely sexy to me. Personally, I like women PERIOD. It doesn't really matter to me what happens behind closed doors because that's my business and no one has to know unless I divulge the information. Sasha would be sexy regardless if she was a bottom or top, but to me, the fact that she's a top with a huge penis makes her all the more attractive. To each his own, I guess. KO likes what he likes and I like what I like. I wouldn't dare riducule KO for liking to get his ass licked. I, personally, don't want my asshole played with and licked. Not what I consider enjoyable, but if that's what KO likes, more power to him.

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

I've been in this game for years my man, its made me an animal, its rules to this shit, I wrote me a manual. A step by step booklet, for you to get your game on track, not your wig pushed back.

#1 in the eyes of people who view ts as men, we are all gay. Its all man on man sex. We (dudes that fuck with ts) are the only ones that draw these imaginary boundaries as an attempt to find peace within our own selves. That's why I try not to discredit another man for liking to get dicked down by ts. I just say, it aint my thing.

#2 that untapped 'genre' you speak of, its been tried and it aint profitable at all. Lets say you have to pay a ts $600 for a video shoot and you have to pay the genetic girl $600 for the shoot, that's $1200 in model cost. Add in a nice hotel and incidentals and your looking at $1500 for one 15 to 25 minute video. What's in it for the photographer? No profit. Not to mention that most ts/genetic women scenes are lame. And trying to find quality urban girls that would be down for it would be hard as shit. Too much diggin for too few diamonds...

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Your manual should be cut and pasted to every forum and automatically referred to everytime someone brings up a gay question!

TS fucking women is the least popular of the scenarios: TG fucking men or Men fucking TG are the most popular - TG fucking TG next.
That's why we have our sites (here's the plug!)
http://www.trannies-fuck-guys.com
http://www.trannies-fuck-trannies.com
http://www.guys-fuck-trannies.com

Get each site individually at a CHEAP price - or bunch them together for mega discounts

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Originally Posted by Sasha

Do you mind if i butt in on this lol "Lady in the room" Hey guys please be gentle*
Im Sasha Strokes one of the models of grooby productions and im a Top girl. My opinion on this topic! Is that a man is man and a woman is a woman it shouldnt matter what postion the two partners play long as its fun and enjoyable for them and viewers and it shouldnt be a battle of bottoms vs top.. This is truely where the problem is long as the man knows he the male in the realationship and the female vice versa! And the sex is hot It should always come out a big bang! I understand this is porn and i acknowledge the fact its also a busniess and you to put out what the paying memebrs wanna see! But you also wanna put out good content they wanna see as well! But I believe the content should be fun and look enjoyable and more believable,I do not think it should look like work for pay! this is just my opinion plz dont take personal btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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I feel you for the most part. Good sex sells itself. Like I said before, if you're a top and you're doing your thing, cool. I just need the photographer to keep in mind that dudes like myself who like girls that bottom would prefer to see backshots of her ass jiggling and them ta-ta's hanging out more than we wanna see the inside of some random dudes asshole and balls.

As long as you a remain a lady while getting your fuck on I think I can tolerate the top scenes. I just hate it when a chick says i'm a lady but then you see her on a video topping some dude acting and sounding like a man. Shits a major turn off. You can be emphatic and still be a lady if you get what i'm saying.

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Originally Posted by onone

If you enjoy watching a man suck a tranny off MORE than you enjoy watching a woman suck a tranny off, I think that qualifies as gay. If you enjoy watching a tranny butt fuck a man more than you enjoy watching a tranny fuck a woman, that certainly is 100% gay.

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That's flawed logic. That's like saying that if a gay man gets off from watching two men fuck each other while wearing fishnet stockings, then he's straight. lol

Or that a straight guy should get turned on by watching Trans Porn Star Buck Angel masturbate (since Buck has a genetic pussy).

Contrary to public opinion, the actual facts of reality are: genitals & gender are two SEPARATE categories that don't always necessarily match (regardless of what mainstream society tries to ignore or consider WAY too taboo to even talk about). Masculine is Masculine & Feminine is Feminine. In other words, a Hot Chick is a Hot Chick no matter what's between her legs or what she decides to do with it.

One day even mainstream society will evolve (many decades or longer from now) and laugh at the fact that this was even an issue among "civilized" people.

Personally, I get off from tgirls getting "bottomed" (whether in a video or in my bed). But I'm just making a point here. :-)

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

I feel you for the most part. Good sex sells itself. Like I said before, if you're a top and you're doing your thing, cool. I just need the photographer to keep in mind that dudes like myself who like girls that bottom would prefer to see backshots of her ass jiggling and them ta-ta's hanging out more than we wanna see the inside of some random dudes asshole and balls.

As long as you a remain a lady while getting your fuck on I think I can tolerate the top scenes. I just hate it when a chick says i'm a lady but then you see her on a video topping some dude acting and sounding like a man. Shits a major turn off. You can be emphatic and still be a lady if you get what i'm saying.

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I agree as I said before remeber your position..If your a lady your a lady no one wants to see a man in a wig unless your a cross dresser and the viewer are into them no offense plz excuse.. Anyway getting back to my point excuse what imma bout to say because it gets a little nasty lol! But I am a top but i am also a transgender woman I love being dominate with my partner at times but also gentle and sexy lol I love fucking while sucking my own tits or getting them sucked and squeezed . I loved getting my salad tossed and giving and getting some good head lol and "do you see all this ass trust there gonna be some ass shaking in that video if im giving him a good spanking.
What the issue maybe some times is with some Ts being tops and the photgrapher(no directed to all) is that they do forget viewers are watching and they wanna see everything that the She-male model is doing! Im sure they want it to be sexy! The ass the tits her sucking sum dick and then everything that keeps in there eyes there still a woman! But can plow a Guy down! My opinion hope i dont offend the btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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Originally Posted by Sasha

I agree as I said before remeber your position..If your a lady your a lady no one wants to see a man in a wig unless your a cross dresser and the viewer are into them no offense plz excuse.. Anyway getting back to my point excuse what imma bout to say because it gets a little nasty lol! But I am a top but i am also a transgender woman I love being dominate with my partner at times but also gentle and sexy lol I love fucking while sucking my own tits or getting them sucked and squeezed . I loved getting my salad tossed and giving and getting some good head lol and "do you see all this ass trust there gonna be some ass shaking in that video if im giving him a good spanking.
What the issue maybe some times is with some Ts being tops and the photgrapher(no directed to all) is that they do forget viewers are watching and they wanna see everything that the She-male model is doing! Im sure they want it to be sexy! The ass the tits her sucking sum dick and then everything that keeps in there eyes there still a woman! But can plow a Guy down! My opinion hope i dont offend the btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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Its hard to argue against the compelling visual you laid out there for us lol

Definitely sounds like you are atleast in tune with what most guys like even though you are a top.

Btw, I never really knew you had ass like that bbut I guess I do now

To expound upon the specific type of tranny porn that I would most enjoy watching that currently isn't being produced. The entire Vaniity with Belladonna scene is something that I'd like to see turned into a genre that includes black and latino tranny/female performers. A scene with Logan Kinky Kennedy and Pinky would be great. The hairy man sucking penis and taking penis in his buttocks makes the scene unwatchable for me.

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Originally Posted by Sasha

I agree as I said before remeber your position..If your a lady your a lady no one wants to see a man in a wig unless your a cross dresser and the viewer are into them no offense plz excuse.. Anyway getting back to my point excuse what imma bout to say because it gets a little nasty lol! But I am a top but i am also a transgender woman I love being dominate with my partner at times but also gentle and sexy lol I love fucking while sucking my own tits or getting them sucked and squeezed . I loved getting my salad tossed and giving and getting some good head lol and "do you see all this ass trust there gonna be some ass shaking in that video if im giving him a good spanking.
What the issue maybe some times is with some Ts being tops and the photgrapher(no directed to all) is that they do forget viewers are watching and they wanna see everything that the She-male model is doing! Im sure they want it to be sexy! The ass the tits her sucking sum dick and then everything that keeps in there eyes there still a woman! But can plow a Guy down! My opinion hope i dont offend the btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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Damn Sasha you definitely have put some thought into that scenario you naughty girl. I'm not into tops personally but its whatever floats a dudes boat. If another man is it, so be it. If getting topped by a tgirl is it, so be it. I don't give a shit about labels; I care about being happy. And what makes me happy is a soft, cute, submissive, nasty-in-the-bed, feminine girl... whether she got a dick or don't.:D

By the way, you qualify Sasha if you decide to bottom.:cool:

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

Its hard to argue against the compelling visual you laid out there for us lol

Definitely sounds like you are atleast in tune with what most guys like even though you are a top.

Btw, I never really knew you had ass like that bbut I guess I do now

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OHHHHH she got ass like that. And i'm a fan of it! I like how she laid that story out too. And just to add my 2 pesos, I'm a alpha dog myself (unique in my own as some of you others- whereby i don't like anyone sniffing my ass nevermind touching it.... it a problem). But generally and truthfully it all falls under the gaylordship when you have a thing for a tranny. Only you know if you really are gay or not meaning you like men, wanna be with them and all that wild shhhhh. Otherwise welcome to porn and get your freak on! I got into this shhh by wayyy of porn and my lady not wanting to give me anal sex. Now look WTF she did LMAO..... Im up in here trying to understand how i can get more tranny azz LOL.


I couldn't resist the on and off jokes forgive my humor or lack thereof.:cool:

For the record I'm into bottoms, and videos are a creation it can be shown in so many ways (filmed in so many ways) It just has to be creative if you go back to China's vid with ole dude (see pic) that very pic shows him dominating her orally then he goes on to hit it as well but for a Top they might not get it, but only get it orally. I could watch something like that where I'm getting excited off the oral aspect of the vid and not the physical. but the best scenario for a Top situation would be a tranny bottom.

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Originally Posted by Sasha

Do you mind if i butt in on this lol "Lady in the room" Hey guys please be gentle*
Im Sasha Strokes one of the models of grooby productions and im a Top girl. My opinion on this topic! Is that a man is man and a woman is a woman it shouldnt matter what postion the two partners play long as its fun and enjoyable for them and viewers and it shouldnt be a battle of bottoms vs top.. This is truely where the problem is long as the man knows he the male in the realationship and the female vice versa! And the sex is hot It should always come out a big bang! I understand this is porn and i acknowledge the fact its also a busniess and you to put out what the paying memebrs wanna see! But you also wanna put out good content they wanna see as well! But I believe the content should be fun and look enjoyable and more believable,I do not think it should look like work for pay! this is just my opinion plz dont take personal btg forum

Much Love
xoxoxo
Sasha Strokes

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Sasha you sexy thing you. I got all three of my eyes on you and a warm, handsome face for you to sit, nice of you to passby and chime in.....

Hopefully this was gentle enough.

The industry is wide enough to incorporate any and everyone. We all have our opinions on what we'd like to see, and i thank the producers for listening even if they dont have to.
I like it all in term of the role switching, and each scene i base not on the acts, but whos doing em. Some girls look great at bottomin, others dont get into it, some girls make look again and think you couldnt even fuck that good as a top, others dont. and dont forget the important but overlooked element of chemistry with whomever shes doing a scene with. One o fmy new fave scene is the one Doll did for ts seduction. She was vers in it, and frankly did an amazing job doign both bottoming and topping.
! agree with sasha (hey you lol) in that the man/woman role is something outta bedroom, and if youre happy in what you do in the bed, power to you for not wavering based on what others think you should do.