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I have an escort question for the forum. I just spent the weekend with a woman from another Grooby site. I paid her a fee of $5000 a night for the entire weekend. I thought the rate was reasonable but another forum member who I know said I was crazy.
His reasoning:
1. never pay that much money for a tranny
2. I should never spend the night with a tranny.
3. Tranny's don't need romance, they just need to be fucked.
Personally I disagree with him on all of the above. What do you guys think?
Did you enjoy it?
Did you feel you got your money's worth?
That's all that matters. The missus gets pissed off if I want to buy a sports car as she doesn't see the value in it but it's something I enjoy driving, enjoy spending time in, like to own and makes me feel good.
I think anyone who states:
"3. Tranny's don't need romance, they just need to be fucked." has got some self-esteem issues themselves.
While i wouldnt pay 5K for ANYBODY, that's a 'me' thing. What you choose to do is a 'you' thing. Nobody can/should not you for what you do because they dint agree or approve.
u crazy AF for paying that kinda money lol, u would pay for sex is pathetic honestlyQuote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1
I definitely thought she was well worth it. I enjoyed myself immensely and I believe she did as well. I also think she truly enjoyed the romance and truly enjoyed being treated like a "girlfriend" rather than a "fuck buddy" (excuse the term).Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Then that's all that matters. Value is in what you get from it and you are probably making a whole lot of wannabes jealous!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazharlem
I appreciate your honesty, but I don't think of myself as pathetic. We all pay for sex in some form or another. I'm just alittle more honest with myself than you are. Every date you go on you are in a sense paying for sex, at least with me I know up front I'm going to have sex an the end of the evening, You Don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
I have literally never done any of that. But that's really a bad way to phrase it as it characterizes all women as hoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazharlem
End of story though if you thought it was worth it then it was. I've considered paying for sex but I'm always talked out of it by the thought of how much food I could get with that money. Am I satisfied? Yes. Yes I am.
This......Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
I can't let you get away with that horrible analogy. I don't know why tricks always compare a date to paying a prostitute when they aren't even the same things. I guess it's so you won't feel like a sucker. A date is personal. People are usually looking to become better acquainted on a date. Besides, sex isn't guaranteed on a date. Sex really isn't even the point of a date. Paying a hooker on the other hand is strictly exchanging money for sex. The agreement is sex only, nothing personal. I guess by your logic, a man who takes care of his wife and kids is in the same boat as a trick since he has sex with his wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazharlem
You are right, my analogy was indeed horrible and my logic was both clouded and flawed. I apologise for it. But let me me perfectly clear with you I do not now nor have I ever felt like a sucker. I know exactly what I am doing and I do not do it with any kind of regularity. I spent as much and more on regular or real dates. The weekend was amazing and we both walked away fulfilled. Thank you for your honest opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Magick
it aint tricking if you got it....lol
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Originally Posted by Black Magick
I agree with you, it's a completely different thing to dating but it doesn't mean there is anything wrong or "pathetic" in what he was doing. He was buying entertainment - an experience - and as long as both parties knew the limitations, and they both walked away from the experience happy, then more power to them.
Always do what makes you happy.
I'm a gadget geek, I spend my excess funds on the 'next' gadget etc despite knowing that I will want the 'next hotness' or whatever. Never mind the haters that want to put you down for what you have/do, it seems a product of the culture. The same person that puts you down for the way you spend your money is supposedly riding around in a Jag which could also be seen as excess spending, so go figure.
I don't care what he does with his money. I do draw the line, however, when tricks compare that pitiful thing thry do to datting to try to make it seem like every man is doing what they're doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
That's what females tell tricks so they dont feel bad about trickin'....and yes, its STILL trickin, whether you 'got it' or not...tricking is by definition, giving money or something of value to a person for attention that they otherwise would not give you.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
slice it up but if you PAY for sex ur a loser period
unfortunately to most mean we tgirls are little more than fantasies,experiments and etc.very few guys will actually entertain the possibility of something real and long term out there.if im going to be fetishized and the whole nine than i will be getting payed for it.im ok with the fat that guys are on the dl.my whole thing is if your on the dl just pay the girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1
now im not saying all men are like this,there are a few real decent and secure guys out there and im more than appreciative for them.
Im not sayin you shouldnt get your money. If they wanna pay, you might as well take it....im not even telling you to stop telling them 'its not trickin if you got it'...if thats all it takes to make them break bread, do you by all means...tell a trick what they want to hear sweetheart...thats the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
The problem is, a lot of guys who actually consider the long term get swept up in that category. And before long they start becoming rather cynical about ever finding a TS who isn't into just money. Black Magick is a good example ( No offense. ) And honestly there are times where I'm almost in the same boat as he is. Next thing you know everyone is bitter and no body gets all the hugs and kisses they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
well when i said the whole it 'aint tricking..' thing i was being facetious.while escorting is a hustle i try to be as genuine as possible.the really good providers dont make you feel like your a client at all and the best clients dont make you feel like a whore.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1
I like how you worded that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
None taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
I actually speak the way I do to show these trans exactly what happens when a person is fed up with all the bullshit they do. I know that 99.9% of the guys on here are blind and love to act like the TS are incapable of doing any wrong. But that's nonsense. I've given up my search for a TS, long-term at least, because I can't be with anyone whose ever prostituted (I guess escorting it the politically correct word). Even once is too many times. Unfortunately, many of them will say they've never done it, but after doing some digging around, I always find out that they're lying. I don't buy that whole "it was the only way I can make a living" bullshit either. If a black man can't use that excuse when he's in a courtroom for dealing drugs, then a TS doesn't get to use that excuse either. They just want easy money. I've met quite a few TS that work average, everyday jobs and lead productive lives. But guess what else? They also don't indulge in the bullshit that their counterparts usually do. They can actually get jobs because they have good attitudes, they're not dramatic, they're not trashy-looking, they don't try to bring attention to themselves, etc.
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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
and you think it isnt any different with gg's? i hear the same compliant from men when whining about females..."bitches only care about money,looks, dick, this and that."
and the same thing can be said about dudes...how many decent everyday girls get pushed aside for shorty with the prettiest face,fattest ass or nicest titties???
my first boyfriend was unemployed (never will do that again).the two after that have been decent blue collar,hard working types but in no means rich or well off.none of them have been the flyest,cutest,big dicked or thuggish guys out there.however they were decent men (well not the first one,he was a dog) with whom i vibed with.
so than why not entertaining something real with the above ts you described since those are qualities you obviously find enduringQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Magick
Two reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
1. We're sexually incompatible
2. I gave my word that I'll never date a TS and I'm sticking to it.
after you opened your mouth i am completely sure that the reason trans women payed you no mind is your horrible views of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Magick
HEAR THIS NOW GENTLEMAN...YOU WILL NEVER FIND A TS NO MATTER HOW COOL OR DOWN TO EARTH THAT IS GOING TO BE OKAY WITH BEING CALLED HE OR HIM (CROSSDRESSERD DONT COUNT!).
GG's may have similar complaints, but in my experience it was always by a much smaller margin that I've seen it with them. What I'm talking about is much more common with ts girls. When you consider I'd been talking to gg's a good 7 years before I'd even realized I was in to ts girls, that accounts for quite a lot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
I Agree 110 percent,but unfortunately there are definetley not enough BTG escorts that conduct there business that way.But I hear Men say they wont pay for sex.one way or the other your paying for it.wether its dinner,a movie ect.....or just taken the direct quicker and for some,cheaper route to having the sex you wanted all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
NOT THE SAME. I have taken a female to dinner, a movie and out for drinks with no expectation of sex. Hell, ive had sex with ts and gg's who wanted nothing but to have sex with me Would you in turn go see an escort and give her money and accept not getting any? No, you wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by andwar
I wish dudes would stop coming up with shit to psychologically make them feel better about shit they do.
Ps. I have nothing against escorts or the men who use them. Just do what you do and stop making up shit to make yourself feel better about it
Roc i feel that everyone is intitled to there oppinion,I Don't have to make up a damn thing for what I do.And I feel it is the same when it comes to your motives or intentions being based on having sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1
Why did you take her out? (unless she was Mother/Sister/etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1
Its call life you only have one no one was put on this earth to judge you whatever you choose to do with your money is your decision your grown. I'm a pornstarr/escort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazharlem
Yes you paid a sex worker money to spend time and obviously have sex with, but so what....big deal. It really doesnt matter how much you spent, 5000 grand or 500. 5 Grand might not be a lot to you and if the experience was worth it,then do you . How does Jay- Z, say it " What's fifty grand to a nigga like him. I am not saying that you Jay-Z but maybe five grand doesnt mean as much to you for the experience as it does to others. This past weekend people spent a lot more then that to see a super bowl which is basically 3 to 4 hour climax, bottled inside a 3 day weekend event. Super bowl tickets alone cost minimum 5 grand and then for everything else...You know they spent more then what you spent for the experience, but to them it was worth it. If the superbowl in Indy was anything like the two I have been two in Miami, there was a lot of tricking going on as well. Now me, that is a Big screen, a new Xbox, surround sound, etc .. That experience is not as important to me. But as long as your experience was worth is and that five grand isnt making you miss the mortage, rent or car payments..man, do you .
As for tricks being desperate and the whole " I aint never paying for sex" exclamation that dudes like to say. What is the big deal. There are professional athletes, Actors, powerful business men that in most cases, can have any woman they want for free. They pay all the time,(a lot more then 5 grand) as we often see all over the News. A man shouldnt feel any less a man because he chose to pay for sex( an erotic adventure) any more then a bungee jumper, snowboarder,backpacker traveler etc. Life is all about living it, as long as you dont hurt anyone in the process.You have your own personal reasons for doing what you did and at the end of the day, only you have to deal with any consequences or feelings that come of it. If you got it, and you want it how you want it, man do you.
I found her mentally stimulating and wanted to get to know her better. Wasnt sexually attracted to her at all. Unlike most dudes, my motives arent always sexually or physically motivated. If i like a woman's mentality, i just as interested in spending time with her as if i were sexually interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Then why make the point she was a woman? Would you take a man out for dinner, drinks and a movie?Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1
You had absolutely no interest in getting into ther pants at all?
Im not taking a dude any-damn-where lol. Unless it was regarding business, but that's a whole different thing. And no, i had no interest in having sex with her at all. We still talk to this day. And i'll still hit her up like 'hey, meet me at ____ and lets hang out'Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Ok so if you had no sexual interest ... then why not take a "dude" out if you were only interested in her mind? Busted.
I take male and female friends out for dinner but I wouldn't use the fact I was taking a friend out, with no sexual interest to support an argument about paying for sex.
Busted? Ummm ok. My point was this, the whole 'even if take her out for dinner and a movie, its still paying for sex' is invalid. Which, it is. Its not the same and anyone that believes that it is, is flawed in their thinking. I dont knock dudes for paying for sex, do what you do, but trying to relate it to dating is wholely inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
As far as me taking a male friend out to dinner, thats not how my friends and i operate. Simple as that. If thats what you do, more power to you. Dont knock me for not doing the same.
So your point is - dating is different from paying for sex, which I don't think anybody is really disputing that much - but nevertheless, nobody goes on a date (as long as they're attracted to the girl) and pays for dinner, popcorn, etc. without having sex, whether that date or the future in their mind. That's why they're dating. Your argument of taking a woman out for dinner is irrelevant, it wasn't a date, you were just taking a friend out - whom if you had no sexual interest in, could have been a male?Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreat1