I've noticed that white guys get passes

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Seriously though I've noticed that sisters who eventually end up dating outside of their race tend to not be as stringent on non black guys in terms of dating. I'm not sure if its the same with black ts but I know of atleast 3 black women who now date white guys, who when datingg black guys had a strict set of criteria a dude had to be...tall, athletic, dark, good job. All three of these chickz are now with dudes who only have the latter. It makes me think, most black women will overlook there wants if a guy has the ability to fulfill their monetary needs.

That's possible, as some girls do prioritize financial security over other factors which has historically been the case for marriage in the first place. Marrying for love didn't come into play until relatively recently. Also, they may want a guy that can take care of themselves and not rely on the girl. I've seen many a girl whose man relied on her financially, they invariably were black and/or hispanic. Another thing to consider, is that white guys tend not to be down low. A girl may be able to accept a less attractive white man that treats her like a woman than a black man that only treats her like a woman when they are alone.

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Seriously though I've noticed that sisters who eventually end up dating outside of their race tend to not be as stringent on non black guys in terms of dating. I'm not sure if its the same with black ts but I know of atleast 3 black women who now date white guys, who when datingg black guys had a strict set of criteria a dude had to be...tall, athletic, dark, good job. All three of these chickz are now with dudes who only have the latter. It makes me think, most black women will overlook there wants if a guy has the ability to fulfill their monetary needs.

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These days, chicks don't care what you look like. If you have that paper, you look good as hell lol

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That's possible, as some girls do prioritize financial security over other factors which has historically been the case for marriage in the first place. Marrying for love didn't come into play until relatively recently. Also, they may want a guy that can take care of themselves and not rely on the girl. I've seen many a girl whose man relied on her financially, they invariably were black and/or hispanic. Another thing to consider, is that white guys tend not to be down low. A girl may be able to accept a less attractive white man that treats her like a woman than a black man that only treats her like a woman when they are alone.

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This makes sense. Although I think the stigma attached to homosexuality within the black community is slowly fading away. I am seeing a lot more black lesbian couples who are out and living their lives. Perhaps gay black male couples will soon follow.

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This makes sense. Although I think the stigma attached to homosexuality within the black community is slowly fading away. I am seeing a lot more black lesbian couples who are out and living their lives. Perhaps gay black male couples will soon follow.

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I find it hard to believe that you don't see any gay black male couples.i was up there last weekend and saw more than a few

raheme been trying to get a lil deep on em here lately LOL

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This makes sense. Although I think the stigma attached to homosexuality within the black community is slowly fading away. I am seeing a lot more black lesbian couples who are out and living their lives. Perhaps gay black male couples will soon follow.

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All depends on ones perspective, a great many times you might see a group of girls and not realize any two out the group are a couple at all without some overt PDA occurring. Some might say lesbians in general regardless of race tend to have it easier, as guys will usually see it as one of two ways. Two girls getting it on is sexy; and/or treating the girl as one of the guys a 'homie' that they can share girl problems with.

I would also point out that by far and large gay and lesbian couples of all races, are fairly accepted in mainstream life. Religious groups tend to be the major influencing force against homosexuality, as they like to overlook the the whole "judge not..." and "love thy neighbors..." bits of their religion.

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That's possible, as some girls do prioritize financial security over other factors which has historically been the case for marriage in the first place. Marrying for love didn't come into play until relatively recently. Also, they may want a guy that can take care of themselves and not rely on the girl. I've seen many a girl whose man relied on her financially, they invariably were black and/or hispanic. Another thing to consider, is that white guys tend not to be down low. A girl may be able to accept a less attractive white man that treats her like a woman than a black man that only treats her like a woman when they are alone.

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I agree with most of this except the highlighted part. I believe White guys just see most TS as exotic pets/sexual fetishes while still being loyal to their White wives/kids. As for Black TS and Black men, yes, unfortunately most of us who do turn to TS usually are from the prison/low income areas of society. So again, it goes back to being 'taken' care of financially. Most White guys have disposable income to engage in their sexual fantasies while most Black guys (who isn't playing ball or slanging dope) struggle to just get by in life. So even though they may be with a White guy, better believe they still wanna get d-cked down by Brothas. Its just easier for them to find Big Black D-ck than it is to find Big Bank Account.

Trust me I know...currently I'm not in the best financial position ATM, but whenever a TS needs 'it', they have no problem hitting me up.:cool:

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I agree with most of this except the highlighted part. I believe White guys just see most TS as exotic pets/sexual fetishes while still being loyal to their White wives/kids. As for Black TS and Black men, yes, unfortunately most of us who do turn to TS usually are from the prison/low income areas of society. So again, it goes back to being 'taken' care of financially. Most White guys have disposable income to engage in their sexual fantasies while most Black guys (who isn't playing ball or slanging dope) struggle to just get by in life. So even though they may be with a White guy, better believe they still wanna get d-cked down by Brothas. Its just easier for them to find Big Black D-ck than it is to find Big Bank Account.

Trust me I know...currently I'm not in the best financial position ATM, but whenever a TS needs 'it', they have no problem hitting me up.:cool:

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based on my personal experiences i havent really encountered a brotha who is willing to openly (by openly i mean bring around friends and family) date a ts woman.
The guys who tend to bring me around are either white or latin.i did have one mixed dude bring me to meet his friends at a club but thats one out of my 5 years of dating.not looking good my brothers smh.
also eww at the whole big black dick thing.that sounds silly lol

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I believe White guys just see most TS as exotic pets/sexual fetishes while still being loyal to their White wives/kids.

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I disagree with your use of 'sexual fetish' but I do think this applies to everyone not dating a trans woman, and just in it for the sexual thrill/fantasy. There are certainly a great many white men that just want the sexual thrill/fantasy too. However; there tend to be more white men dating trans women than black and it's really because they are more secure in themselves than black men are, not because of their financial situations. Some men cheat, regardless of race, but just because a white man is with a trans woman, doesn't mean that he is living a double life with a wife somewhere else. That's just down low men justifying their own lack of social decorum.

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As for Black TS and Black men, yes, unfortunately most of us who do turn to TS usually are from the prison/low income areas of society. So again, it goes back to being 'taken' care of financially. Most White guys have disposable income to engage in their sexual fantasies while most Black guys (who isn't playing ball or slanging dope) struggle to just get by in life.

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lol First the white guys that are engaging in their sexual fantasies aren't dating trans women, they are using escorts or having casual sex encounters. It's funny because, the black guys will have the disposable income to spend over a hundred dollars on a pair of trainers, but not to treat a trans woman as equal to a genetic woman. Seems like black men just have their priorities skewed. They are more concerned with keeping up appearance of what they feel "society" expects of them which in reality is rubbish. You should live your life for yourself, not random people that mean nothing to you in the grand scheme of things. They really aren't worth being a friend if they would dislike you simply because you date a trans woman.

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So even though they may be with a White guy, better believe they still wanna get d-cked down by Brothas. Its just easier for them to find Big Black D-ck than it is to find Big Bank Account.

Trust me I know...currently I'm not in the best financial position ATM, but whenever a TS needs 'it', they have no problem hitting me up.:cool:

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No, sometimes girls date white guys simply because they prefer white guys plain and simple. Just like some girls prefer black guys, it's not necessarily about dick size, not all men have huge dicks and/or know how to have awesome sex. There are always going to be exceptions to the rule of course and some girls are driven by the sexual appetites, so if you are getting yours then there's nothing to complain about. I always applaud the girls that hold men to a certain level of standards of respect though, and don't settle for less.

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based on my personal experiences i havent really encountered a brotha who is willing to openly (by openly i mean bring around friends and family) date a ts woman.
The guys who tend to bring me around are either white or latin.i did have one mixed dude bring me to meet his friends at a club but thats one out of my 5 years of dating.not looking good my brothers smh.
also eww at the whole big black dick thing.that sounds silly lol

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I'm callin bs on this...for a fact lol

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I'm callin bs on this...for a fact lol

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. I always applaud the girls that hold men to a certain level of standards of respect though, and don't settle for less.

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Yea, we are often single, lonely and horny for long periods of time to lol

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I disagree with your use of 'sexual fetish' but I do think this applies to everyone not dating a trans woman, and just in it for the sexual thrill/fantasy. There are certainly a great many white men that just want the sexual thrill/fantasy too. However; there tend to be more white men dating trans women than black and it's really because they are more secure in themselves than black men are, not because of their financial situations. Some men cheat, regardless of race, but just because a white man is with a trans woman, doesn't mean that he is living a double life with a wife somewhere else. That's just down low men justifying their own lack of social decorum.



lol First the white guys that are engaging in their sexual fantasies aren't dating trans women, they are using escorts or having casual sex encounters. It's funny because, the black guys will have the disposable income to spend over a hundred dollars on a pair of trainers, but not to treat a trans woman as equal to a genetic woman. Seems like black men just have their priorities skewed. They are more concerned with keeping up appearance of what they feel "society" expects of them which in reality is rubbish. You should live your life for yourself, not random people that mean nothing to you in the grand scheme of things. They really aren't worth being a friend if they would dislike you simply because you date a trans woman.



No, sometimes girls date white guys simply because they prefer white guys plain and simple. Just like some girls prefer black guys, it's not necessarily about dick size, not all men have huge dicks and/or know how to have awesome sex. There are always going to be exceptions to the rule of course and some girls are driven by the sexual appetites, so if you are getting yours then there's nothing to complain about. I always applaud the girls that hold men to a certain level of standards of respect though, and don't settle for less.

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You’re only settling if you subscribe to the dream...

Base happiness upon self and it will attract the right partner.

We often they hear this too late, wasting our lives looking for the one that will make us “happy” by completing the equation. Developing independent, personal happiness redefines what the perfect match is—after all, you can’t be certain a person isn’t the right match if you haven’t confirmed you’re in the right shape.

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. It makes me think, most black women will overlook there wants if a guy has the ability to fulfill their monetary needs.

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Survey says: DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the money. I don't give a fuck about sister who date outside their race.

Romance without finance is a damn nuisance.

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I disagree with your use of 'sexual fetish' but I do think this applies to everyone not dating a trans woman, and just in it for the sexual thrill/fantasy. There are certainly a great many white men that just want the sexual thrill/fantasy too. However; there tend to be more white men dating trans women than black and it's really because they are more secure in themselves than black men are, not because of their financial situations. Some men cheat, regardless of race, but just because a white man is with a trans woman, doesn't mean that he is living a double life with a wife somewhere else. That's just down low men justifying their own lack of social decorum.

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Oh boy where do I start...well, we just have to diagree on that part, b/c if you ever see any TS 'seriously' dating a white guy, it always seems to be an older, sugar daddie type. I've been in some TS populated cities (NYC, MIA, etc), and whenever I see TS out, those are the type they have by their side.

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lol First the white guys that are engaging in their sexual fantasies aren't dating trans women, they are using escorts or having casual sex encounters. It's funny because, the black guys will have the disposable income to spend over a hundred dollars on a pair of trainers, but not to treat a trans woman as equal to a genetic woman. Seems like black men just have their priorities skewed. They are more concerned with keeping up appearance of what they feel "society" expects of them which in reality is rubbish. You should live your life for yourself, not random people that mean nothing to you in the grand scheme of things. They really aren't worth being a friend if they would dislike you simply because you date a trans woman.

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Damn, Remy are you even Black? Nice way to racially profile/stereotype all Black guys...again, this goes back to the disposable income arguement. Unfortunately, some Black guys may fear losing their jobs/livelyhood if they were to come out and say they date TS. But old White men usually own their own business or have trust funds to fall back on. That's why the only ones (Black) who can really provide or 'sponsor' a TS are the drug dealers who don't really have to worry about those things.

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, sometimes girls date white guys simply because they prefer white guys plain and simple. Just like some girls prefer black guys, it's not necessarily about dick size, not all men have huge dicks and/or know how to have awesome sex. There are always going to be exceptions to the rule of course and some girls are driven by the sexual appetites, so if you are getting yours then there's nothing to complain about. I always applaud the girls that hold men to a certain level of standards of respect though, and don't settle for less.

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And there's nothing wrong with dat...lord knows I have mine. But I just don't want you (or any other TS, human being, etc) make broad generalizations about Black men when it co to TS. We all have our own experiences, but don't act like its the same all across the board.

And I don't like getting into race topic on da 'Net (usually leads to flame wars), so I gonna leave it at that. Came to look at hot TS chics, not to debate racial inequalities!;)

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based on my personal experiences i havent really encountered a brotha who is willing to openly (by openly i mean bring around friends and family) date a ts woman.
The guys who tend to bring me around are either white or latin.i did have one mixed dude bring me to meet his friends at a club but thats one out of my 5 years of dating.not looking good my brothers smh.

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Sorry to hear that...depending on the city, I believe there are some 'brothas' who are willing to date you.

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also eww at the whole big black dick thing.that sounds silly lol

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http://i.imgur.com/4tvK2wf.jpg

Nuff said...

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You’re only settling if you subscribe to the dream...

Base happiness upon self and it will attract the right partner.

We often they hear this too late, wasting our lives looking for the one that will make us “happy” by completing the equation. Developing independent, personal happiness redefines what the perfect match is—after all, you can’t be certain a person isn’t the right match if you haven’t confirmed you’re in the right shape.

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I agree with you, I can always tell when happiness in self eludes a person. They spend their time looking to others to fulfill what they can't themselves. Then when things go sides ways cause that person isn't capable of sustaining your happiness (which no one would be) you are right back at square one again.

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Damn, Remy are you even Black? Nice way to racially profile/stereotype all Black guys...again, this goes back to the disposable income arguement. Unfortunately, some Black guys may fear losing their jobs/livelyhood if they were to come out and say they date TS. But old White men usually own their own business or have trust funds to fall back on. That's why the only ones (Black) who can really provide or 'sponsor' a TS are the drug dealers who don't really have to worry about those things.

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You don't lose your job for being in a relationship with someone, that's just rubbish, playing on false fears for an excuse to be downlow. None of you can name one person in media who has lost their job on account of simply dating a trans woman. By the way, you are racially profiling/stereotypical yourself in saying that 1. a trans woman even needs/wants a sponsor, we want a relationship and 2. that only drug dealers are capable of being the type of person to handle a ts. With this type of ideology, there really is no logic at play. Age could be a factor in that as people get older they tend to get wiser and realize (usually far to late) that they should be living their life for themselves not society. Job has no factor in it at all. At the end of the day I see more black people living outside their means, spending money of frivolous items like top of the line clothing labels, cars, etc that they can barely sustain comfortably and then can't afford to take a girl out on a simple date, or even themselves if the girl is willing to go dutch.

You don't need to come to the forum to look at "hot ts chics", the site is right there at the top for you to click on, the forum is for discussions. :cool:

That pic you posted was good for a laugh though...

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Sorry to hear that...depending on the city, I believe there are some 'brothas' who are willing to date you.

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i never said there werent any....just way more who rather be dl and i dont indulge that attitude in my personal life.
wanna keep me a secret boo? find my escort site lol

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Damn, Remy are you even Black? Nice way to racially profile/stereotype all Black guys...again, this goes back to the disposable income arguement. Unfortunately, some Black guys may fear losing their jobs/livelyhood if they were to come out and say they date TS. But old White men usually own their own business or have trust funds to fall back on. That's why the only ones (Black) who can really provide or 'sponsor' a TS are the drug dealers who don't really have to worry about those things.

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if its that big of a deal tell shorty to leave her "i have a dick tshirt" at home lmao

seriously tho i use to pick one of my ex boyfriends up from work and he never had any issues..shoot i even went to his job interview with him lol

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if its that big of a deal tell shorty to leave her "i have a dick tshirt" at home lmao

seriously tho i use to pick one of my ex boyfriends up from work and he never had any issues..shoot i even went to his job interview with him lol

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http://blogs.babble.com/being-pregna...mcdonalds1.jpg

Iz he still working there, xD....:D

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http://blogs.babble.com/being-pregna...mcdonalds1.jpg

Iz he still working there, xD....:D

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you do realize that this is the exact reason why there are no regular ts forum members .what is it about black ts attracted men that seem to think so lowly of the very people they are attracted to...

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you do realize that this is the exact reason why there are no regular ts forum members .what is it about black ts attracted men that seem to think so lowly of the very people they are attracted to...

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Fyi. That could be said in the reverse in some situations. I've had many a black ts 'talk down' to me. Or make assumptions without knowing the real deal. So that street has lanes going both ways. Just wanted to put that out there.

P.S. the above statement was just an observation. Not meant to belittle, invalidate or argue your previous statement. Nor was it meant the be an indirect shot at anyone. I'll just say that now.

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Fyi. That could be said in the reverse in some situations. I've had many a black ts 'talk down' to me. Or make assumptions without knowing the real deal. So that street has lanes going both ways. Just wanted to put that out there.

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That's very true.i agree.
I just feel like there is an unusual level of hostility and generalization on this forum.
What just happened now is a perfect example.i share my personal experience and someone tries to dig at me
While I'm very opinionated and aggressively vocal (lol) i very rarely directly attack or disrespect anyone.just seems unwarranted is all

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That's very true.i agree.
I just feel like there is an unusual level of hostility and generalization on this forum.
What just happened now is a perfect example.i share my personal experience and someone tries to dig at me
While I'm very opinionated and aggressively vocal (lol) i very rarely directly attack or disrespect anyone.just seems unwarranted is all

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You have a point. BUT you can't decide when it's ok to throw shots and when it's not. You've thrown unwarranted shots at me, as I have you. Just comes with internet forum territory lol. Just do your usual, shrug it off and go about your way.

As far as the hostility and generalization you speak of, I think part of it is caused by each side's overall need to be 'right'. When in actuality, neither side is 100% 'right'. You and remy are both transwomen, so y'all see things from one side of the glass. The men see things from the other side. Neither side sees the WHOLE picture. Not to mention, its hard for people in general to admit that they might be 'wrong' about something they believe.

Just my opinion *shrug*

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You have a point. BUT you can't decide when it's ok to throw shots and when it's not. You've thrown unwarranted shots at me, as I have you. Just comes with internet forum territory lol. Just do your usual, shrug it off and go about your way.

As far as the hostility and generalization you speak of, I think part of it is caused by each side's overall need to be 'right'. When in actuality, neither side is 100% 'right'. You and remy are both transwomen, so y'all see things from one side of the glass. The men see things from the other side. Neither side sees the WHOLE picture. Not to mention, its hard for people in general to admit that they might be 'wrong' about something they believe.

Just my opinion *shrug*

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you do realize that this is the exact reason why there are no regular ts forum members .what is it about black ts attracted men that seem to think so lowly of the very people they are attracted to...

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Baby, I was just joking...stop being over sensitive about everything, k?

And I don't 'lowly' of TS (or any other human) for no reason. I wouldn't even bother to come here if I didn't have luv for Beautiful Black TS Queens. But at the same time, they must behave as one as well.;)