Famous Hip hop producer outed by MTO. Why Homegirl outed him I don't know. I don't think she'd know he'd be recognized. but anyway you slice it. I'm sure he catching hell now from his boys.
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Famous Hip hop producer outed by MTO. Why Homegirl outed him I don't know. I don't think she'd know he'd be recognized. but anyway you slice it. I'm sure he catching hell now from his boys.
http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/66417/mt...er-female.html
Hell I'd fight someone to snuggle with her, she's cute as a button!
I don't know what kind of a "man" bothers about caring what other "men" think or say about them in respect of this.... Not much of a man, in my opinion.
I hope he just laughs, keeps snuggling with her (or whoever else he want to snuggle with) and tells the jokers/haters to go fuk emselves ;)
blue eyed devil
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SHIIIIIIIIT ILL FUCK TOO..NO BIG DEAL:D
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Originally Posted by james7
If you a celeb you CANNOT I repeat YOU CANNOT be caught w/a TS. No Bueno. Bro. everybody will turn on you
Brotha dun fucked up......Why would sleep around these ts if you a celeb.THEY LOOKING FOR THAT SPOT LIGHT,it only a matter of time before they OUT YOU. But i told yall man, trannies are the new drug, once you get one IT'S HARD TO LET EM GO.
they aren't going to stop doing business with him. why let someone else personal life fuck up their potential for financial success.Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
This kind of "situation" just needs the first celeb man (be he an athlete, a musician/dj, an actor etc) to just shrug and say: "...so what?"
And the first guy to react like that, without giving a shit, will
a) become a legend overnight
and
b) cause a seismic positive change in "society's" attitudes.
Who will be the first to grab such an awesome oppurtunity?
Is there not ONE who is "man" enough?
blue eyed devil
I think this will happen everybody knows how fine the ts women are also dmx were caught trying to holla at her.. its becoming comical because we all know there freaking hot its just people are scared to admit it but society is about to rapidly change in the next 5 years... shes hot who caresQuote:
Originally Posted by SHAUN
fact is it's just not "sociably" acceptable in a world where you always have to be politically correct. Anything that might be looked upon negatively, gets the plug pulled, and being involved in that community in that form (sexually), is opening a can of worms that no one wants to touch. It would take someone of Madonna, Michael jackson, or Lady Gaga's caliber to influence change, not some run-of-the-mill chubby producer.
well he's a producer so his work is behind the scenes anyway. but dont forget how ol' girl killed chingys career even after she admitted it was a lie. damage was done. too many of these chicks trying to be grimey for a comeup and sad part is it works. Everyone everywhere knows who Sydney Starr is. These chicks keep playing around with these guys that have money and they gonna end up floating in the river somewhere. He wouldnt be the first politician or celebrity that threatened to kill a woman or actually did over "allegations/exposure."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
a. people are assuming thats shes the one who outed him.no where did it say who exactly sent in the pic. it could of been possibly taken from his phone.
b i cant stand dudes who think its okay to fuck with ts woman as long as no one knows. i think you kind of guys are cowards and i have very little respect for yall
thumbs up to the guys in this thread who expressed they wouldnt care.thats a sexy ass quality ;) xoxoxo
I know WORLD FAMOUS T-GIRLS those who Escort and those who are "retired" and the census I'm told is "They wish the girls would STFU bcuz they be messing it up for other tgirls in the game" I'm told they should shut up and keep getting paid that hush money. but it messes it up for all tgirls getting paid by celebs bcuz they think they bout to snitch too so they don't f with themQuote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
I'm talking about the down low mentality that some men have not an escorts work ethicsQuote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
It really isnt...why?...because theyre no different than the e-thugs on the internet. Everyone talks big shit til it comes to "real life." Doesnt mean everyone isnt genuine, but 99% of the guys here and everywhere else cant wait for a chick to post so they can ride theyre dick. I play devil's advocate because I like the stimulation it brings to my mind, but I dont want that to be confused with my own personal preference either.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
that will never go away, just like the people that snitch on you at work and deny it if confronted. Reality is "YOU" cant expect everyone to be as strong as "YOU", and carry that same mentality of not giving a fuck about who knows. Some people just arent built that way...key is to build theyre confidence and lead, not push them further into the dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
Im not commenting on or condoning the alleged actions of Miss Shayla.Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
Im also not going to be understanding of men who want to be intimate with me but don't want other people to know.I don't think it's healthy for the guys who have that mentality or the girls who put up with it.
If your not strong enough than maybe one shouldn't indulge at all
So what??..that's his business.
truth is when i first found a real ts, (treasure hunting right LOL) it felt like I found the the door to Narnia. I didnt know anything about this world i stepped into. I had to explore, teach myself a lot, and be educated by many. And im proud of the leaps and bounds I've crossed from who I used to be. You have to allow others time to become who they really are...not everyone is as accepting of the truth...some will choose to stay in denial. And reality is, Transgenders arent your typical subject anywhere...majority of the world is uneducated and unwilling to learn. Im sure that will change within the next couple generations, especially with TS and plastic surgery becoming mainstream now, but my point is let the lurkers lurk. When theyre comfortable, they'll come out or they just might stay in the dark, but in the end it's they're decision. Only other decision to make is whether you choose to deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
The niggaz I hang around will NEVER be accepting if I ever came out and kept it 100. So I'm like F it might as well take it the DL routeQuote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
Damn she looks good I would hit too.
I don't listen to Hip Hop so I am not verse on how transsexuals are looked upon on that scene. However, I am most curious how the Hip Hop community class guys who date Gays versus Transsexuals. Is it a double standard or about the same?
they look at the situation as the same. They consider TS just "men in wigs" not matter how bad you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan
Just cuz somebody is a friend doesnt mean they have to know every single move I make. Older I get I realize all teh friends I used to have, just not as trustworthy as I thought. Make sure if you did speak on it to only tell the closest of your friends. I started by telling my 2 closest and they didnt give a damn. I eased my way in, after gettin a little more comfortable, and showed 3 of my boys separately that video of pocahontas from WSHH just to see what they'd say, and they didnt even really know what to say. I told em if i saw I might hit if I didnt know LOL. (Lie but just Gauging their reaction) . Come to find out one of my boys hit me up the next day talking bout he went back to watch 3 times and the other one peeped a few different ones. Dont know your situation, but handle it how you feel bruh...you the one living your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
lol Chingy killed his own career. You have no idea how much drama an artist brings on themselves (even crap from before famous) in their life that prevents them from being a proper business professional, not to mention lack of training/education in that regard. They spend more time focused on bling and living up to an image than handling business. Actually, with shows like Love & Hip Hop everyone can now see multiple artist fucking up their own careers because they aren't focused on their business.Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22
Regarding the politicians and celebrity comment, you are right, there has been a long historical issue of people in positions of perceived power being outed for their sexual dalliances so instead of running around trying to hook up with every girl that catches their eye, they should be in a faithful loving relationship and thus not risk exposing their own sexual proclivities.
Or fuck it and find some real friends. Niggas by definition are ignorant people, step your game up and socialize with people with an open mind that accept you for who you are and not who they want you to be. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
People kill me with this unrealistic way of thinking. Everybody don't agree with a homosexual or bisexual type of lifestyle. Now i don't consider myself gay BUT I DO engage in what would be considered as GAY SEX with transsexuals. Now why would i throw away the bond i have with people THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR YEARS even family because im greedy when it comes to sex and like ladies with dick??Hell no, Just keep that shit to yourself, that's why im PRO DOWNLO to the fullestttt, unless your married that is.Nobody has to know what you like sexually.Now alot of you might say "we're not real men" because of this. but we're just trying to avoid conflict THAT'S WHAT MEN DO. A brotha just want some snacks here and there a lil sexual desires filled.... NAH MEANNNNN????WHY attack us because of this. I mean it's easy for transexuals to just tell a brotha to throw aways BONDS he had with people because like i said before, alot of transexuals started out as gay guys and has been ridiculed their whole life even as a woman SO THEY USED TO THE CONFLICT and bullshit. So they want you to suffer the same fate they did. HELL NAWWWWW I wanna still kick it with the same homies i knew for years the same family members and fucks some trannies on the side without anybody knowing cause thats what i like . IM JUST KEEPIN IT REALLL
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Originally Posted by werwt22
So if someone in the “hip-hop community” were caught flirting with someone who was gay, he would face the same scrutiny as if he flirted with a transsexual?
For I have witnessed many who would class themselves as hip-hop enthusiasts slyly flirt with other guys through a means of body language, in public assuming the person is gay. I can’t recall seeing it as a big deal in the eyes of others as a hip-hop person flirting with a transsexual in public.
You do realize that your basically telling another human being that they're good enough to be fucked by you but not good enough to be associated with.that's hurtful, cowardly, selfish and ignorant as fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by chubbychaser
Im pro not having anything to do with you down low messes unless your paying me and when im done with school not even dealing with yall on that level.
Im just keeping it real too
I mean we just talking sex and fantasies here, NOT A RELATIONSHIP!! But even if it was a relationship i'd say it should take some time before you actually come out and tell the people whom you have to live with for the rest of your life "ie family" that you with a tranny. THEN AGAIN IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE UP FOR DISCUSSION ,it's nobody business. Brothas should know what their dealing with first because we should not have to throw THE bonds we have with people away just for someone who might just be a hustling ass transsexual "NOT SAYING ALL ARE HUSTLERS" but you know what i mean. It's good to be selfish sista!!Goddamnit i wish i was more selfish in the past I MIGHT BE AT THE TOP RIGHT NOW. Yall have to be more understanding about things,it aint that we're trying to be hurtful , we just want the best for ourselves and you. Cause what about me being hurt, me losing my family and friend will hurt me DOES THAT MATTER?? LOL shiddd!! Downlow brothas have it hardddddddd, nobody understands our pain at all, like this is easy NO WE HUMAN BEINGS TOO. And we talking CAREERS HERE, years of hard work going down the drain cause of stuff like this, we have to be careful. Downlow brothas are tired of being called weak selfish and cowards WE ARE REAL MEN DEALING WITH ODD SITUATIONS trying to make the best out of it.I know alot of yall will say "A REAL MAN WOULD BE UP FRONT ABOUT IT" nooo A real man will look at what he will gain and lose because of this and take the best route of dealing with these type of situations WE AINT RUNNING FROM NUFFINNNN, we just playin it safe baby. Downlow brothas STAND UP AND DEFEND YOURSELVES, we gotta stop letting these people attack us.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
this is pure foolishness lmaooooQuote:
Originally Posted by chubbychaser
first of all being with a TS WOMAN doesnt automatically mean losing all your family and friends. you would be amazed at what people will accept when it comes to loved ones, especially family.
What exactly do you think you would be saving a ts woman from by being down low? the confidence and joy of knowing that she has a man who loves her, is proud of her and stands by her. that sounds super horrible, the indignities of it all lmao. lets not pretend that its nothing more than saving your own ass from the perceived consequences that you imagine would happen.
while we're on the topic of perceived "consequences" please stop mentioning that career bullshit. its the 21st century no one is going to fire you or pass you up for a promotion because your dating a ts woman. the worst that would happen is some people would think your gay but we now live in a country where being gay isnt stigmatized and your sure as hell not likely to get fired over it. what might have a negative impact is if your company has a morality clause and you got caught seeing ts hookers but thats not the same as openly dating a ts woman is it.
you dl men have noting hard! thats the whole point, your fucking hiding in the shadows afraid of what would happen if people found out your "dirty little secret". hiding to avoid conflict, hardship or consequences is the exact definition of cowardly. you can fool yourself all you want but your not fooling others.
As a ts woman i find it offensive that i went through a long, difficult journey to become the woman i am today (the kind of woman you desire) but you think its okay to want to be a part of my life without having 1/4th of the courage i had to have.fuck out of here with that
side note: remy mad an excellent point about if being on the dl is so hard, that the prospect of your secret getting out so horrible that why even mess with ts woman in the first place.If your perceived consequences mean so much more to you than why even risk it. grow up, learn some self control and live life ts girls free. of course no one responded to that logic.
We mess with ts because WE LIKE IT, it's a fantasy ok. Now i agree i don't have alot of self control when it comes to sex I LIKE WHAT I LIKE and when it's on... it's on... MY PENIS has a mind of it's own when it's hard HE'S READY TO FUCK. Being Downlow men is hard because we're trying to avoid conflict from the people we love and care about,and also conflict in public as well.If there was no conflict involved WE WOULDN'T BE DOWNLOW. Im just a guy that hates drama and bullshit and i simply try to avoid it. Now imagine a brotha taking his ts woman to see the family on Thanksgiving AND EVERYBODY KNOWS ,you gonna have people whispering and the energy is gonna be all fucked up, you gonna have ppl making jokes , like what if your girl has to go to the bathroom and one of your relatives say some shit like "make sure you raise the seat up" THAT SHIT IS HORRIBLE.. it's just a way of avoiding conflict so you wont have whoop nobodies ASS!! Yallllll use to having to deal with the bullshit WE NOTTTTT.Alriteee...Being with a downlow brotha stop you from getting into some bs and it saves me from having to get into some bs AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WEEEE CANNN STILL ENJOYYYY EACH OTHER....WE CAN STILL GET ROMANTIC AND EVERYTHINGGGGGG. :cool: I can cook you diners at the HOUSE and you will feel like we at a restaurant!!!WE CAN STILL LOVE EACH OTHER!!! I don't want to live without ts when i can be downlow and get THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. Im just being realllllll. Im comfortable , SHE'S COMFORTABLE that's all dat matters, and nobody has to knowwww what we doing in that bedroom, CAUSE IT GETS REAL NASTYYY:D.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
I've done the whole family holiday thing and it was nothing like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by chubbychaser
Just admit your a coward who can't deal with conflict and not for a girl you love? Not even from the generalal public which is composed of strangers? smh the opinion of strangers means more to you than a person you were hypothetically in love with? Speaks volumes about your character and moral fiber
What real man would even ask or want a woman to put up with a situation like that? What kind of self esteem or psychological side effects would a woman suffer from being in a secret relationship because of her gender? I'm sure you don't care as long as your dick is getting wet you selfish prick smfh
One day there won't be a stigma attached to dating ts woman because other men (like some have expressed on this board) have the confidence and bravery to date/love without shame.You sir would feel and know much like the Africans Americans who didn't participate during the civil rights movement felt...the crushing guilt of cowardice
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Originally Posted by chubbychaser
Chubbychaser,
When do you feel this “Down low” charade will end? Surely, you cannot follow this pattern forever? Your comments are precisely the reason why TS Shyla Stacks has made Jazze Pha sexuality public.
Seriously this is the most ignorant part of all that was said. What line of work are you in, that you feel dating a trans woman is going to cause you to lose your job? What evidence do you have to support your belief that when men working jobs mention to their family and friends that they are in a loving relationship with a woman who just happens to be transsexual, you end up losing your job? lol totally laughableQuote:
Originally Posted by chubbychaser
You are making up hypothetical that may never actually happen. Based on your logic of avoiding conflict, you shouldn't go outside either because someone may mug you and make you look like a little bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by chubbychaser
Now, it is true you never know how family is going to act, and I can say that around holidays and events people are gossiping and joking about all manner of shit regardless. They gossiping about who got an abortion, who is cheating on who, who is still on welfare, that's just the way people are. You sit there and deal with that shit like everything else, because you are deluding yourself if you think the fam don't gossip and joke about the genetic girl you are bringing around too, and just like with a trans woman you probably wouldn't hear about it yourself, they'd be doing that amongst themselves. To your face your family will deal with you just the same as they always have, the bold ones may state how they feel about the matter and then keep it moving. The only real extreme examples of outright conflict from family would be by the overly religious right wings. Even then, what's the worst that is going to happen, you are a grown adult with your own place, living your own life, it's not like they are kicking you out of the home and leaving you to fend for yourself in the world.
yup, see mr cee, i feel bad for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tyrone70
unless you were "fooled," the community considers you smashing a tranny the same as smashing a gay guy, mainly because majority of everyone on this planet are uneducated in regards this lifestyle. Half the TS I meet consider themselves gay or still men no matter how far they transition and thats a few "big" names at that. So if they cant even agree on being considered women, why would you expect any other group of people to view TS as women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan
chubbychaser they already know how you feel regardless of how you word it bruh. No way to "win" this argument because they took offense to it, though I understand what you mean in a sense. Im not DL but I dont feel the need to advertise my relationship either. I just want a passable girl that we can live life without everyone questioning shit and pointing fingers.
But you can't understand what we mean *sucks teeth*
And for the record this is one girl who considers herself a woman ;)
Real shit!!! Most of them do see themselves as men because alot of them started out as gay men they just saw a way of getting they hustle on and saw that they look better as a female. You wouldn't believe how many ts i've talked to that consider themselves GAY. But again if you using your dick and fucking a man that is considered GAY SEX. And again altho i don't consider myself or ts women gay I DO ENGAGE INTO THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES WITH THEM. Alot of these ts on here act as if they speak for the majority WHEN THEY DON'T, if you sit back and examine the world of ts THEN they would SEE WHERE WE COMING FROM. They'd see why this shit confuses usss.Quote:
Originally Posted by werwt22