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    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Problem with this is that those are your personal favorites. Someone else has another mix, someone another and another guy just wants new girls every week, I saw you mentioning on Hungangels that using the same bevvy of models worked for Kink. Well - look at Kink now, they're gone, because they refused to seek out more models than the same handful who got stale.

    Getting stellar models who give stellar performances is always the priority, but until you start shooting you don't know what you are going to get, even if they're returning models. Kink and Evil Angel might have a model there all day, and able to eventually get a 30 min scene out of her. Our business model is different, and sometimes it just doesn't work out as well as it should. The expectation that every set is going to be the perfect set for everyone is an impossible one to reach (often people don't even know what they want until they see it). The other issue is getting good male bottoms - they're difficult to find and work with - in fact, any reliable make models which is why you tend to see the same ones. 90% of the new ones, do a set or two before we realized they're useless.

    'Known Tops' ? Like Chelsea Marie, Jade Venus, Melanie Brooks, Bella Vie, Cherry Mavrik? I'm sure we'll get some of those girls you mentioned, but the data and facts are, that if you can get good models that fit the scene, that haven't been seen everywhere else 100x, then they will sell better.
    Hey I like all the ones you mentioned as well. But you're kinda saying two diff things at once bc you mentioned the most active performers out there which HAVE "been seen everywhere else". Soooo ya. And TSSeduction fell apart for a multitude of reasons, the notion of it eventually failing (like many) doesn't preclude my overall point of having some reliable performers. Do what y'all gonna do just offering my take. And ofc I'm going to suggest my personal faves. When I see girls I prefer I pay. That's just how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corbindallas View Post
    Hey I like all the ones you mentioned as well. But you're kinda saying two diff things at once bc you mentioned the most active performers out there which HAVE "been seen everywhere else". Soooo ya. And TSSeduction fell apart for a multitude of reasons, the notion of it eventually failing (like many) doesn't preclude my overall point of having some reliable performers. Do what y'all gonna do just offering my take. And ofc I'm going to suggest my personal faves. When I see girls I prefer I pay. That's just how it goes.
    Not sure how/where you for 'saying two diff things at once' as I re-read and still can't see it. The bottom line is, we usually are the first to break new models and that requires us to take a leap of faith on a lot of models. If someone hits (like Jade Venus) then we work with them and fit them where we can, but then all the other companies jump on it, and suddenly, anyone who wants to see Jade top a guy, has a plethora of choices. Meanwhile, we're moving onto the next model - and then bring Jade back in down the line. There are a handful of good performers though, including some of the ones you mentioned, whose work is so prolific that they've devalued themselves to us. If we just stick to personal favorites and don't bring in new girls, the numbers/history would show that's how a site fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Not sure how/where you for 'saying two diff things at once' as I re-read and still can't see it. The bottom line is, we usually are the first to break new models and that requires us to take a leap of faith on a lot of models. If someone hits (like Jade Venus) then we work with them and fit them where we can, but then all the other companies jump on it, and suddenly, anyone who wants to see Jade top a guy, has a plethora of choices. Meanwhile, we're moving onto the next model - and then bring Jade back in down the line. There are a handful of good performers though, including some of the ones you mentioned, whose work is so prolific that they've devalued themselves to us. If we just stick to personal favorites and don't bring in new girls, the numbers/history would show that's how a site fails.
    By proven tops I just mean they do that role in real life, or have shown in their limited amount of appearances that they're skilled at it. Angela longcock did one scene only topping a guy. That's what I mean. She's one of the minority of gals that exclusively tops in real life, just saying. She's got the skillzzzz. We should totally get scenes from her. And to your point, Chelsea Marie comes in for the site. She did great as always, but it's her thousandth scene haha. Meanwhile some of the gals I'm saying have like one HC scene. Let's change that!

    I guess my battle is more for those types, not the Casey Kisses or Aspen Brooks as there's lots of their scenes out there already. I'm saying it would be nice to get the gals that top well but haven't done it enough to come in for the site , so maybe we actually agree?

    Like you guys will absolutely kill it with a scene and then we don't get the girl back for a hardcore again! It's a tease haha. If they've done a dozen or more scenes w you guys that's one thing, but Scarlett Peggings only has the one hardcore scene with y'all if I remember right, as an example. So yeah I'm petitioning for these gals bc I like them, but also within the criteria of what the site IS. So I don't think I'm being nitpicky to add this to the advice column here. You guys need to know this info bc I think it's a missed opportunity.

    As always appreciate the response and hearing back. All good vibes man

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    I'm kinda laughing at Corbin's question he posed on Hungangels, as I'm sure he's feeling the frustration that I have, when one asks a simple question, and gets an array of answers that miss the point - or go off on their own fantasies. Just as an FYI also, the problem with feedback on a forum like HA (for us) is that often you will find the biggest mouths, are the ones who've never paid. Which is why I solicit for pertinent feedback here.

    Corbin asked the very simple question:
    In your opinion, what tgirl pornstars/performers (either shot with grooby or not) have great topping skills but we haven't seen enough of in these kind of scenes?

    And give the fair example of Angela Longcock.

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    Jesse Flores and Yasmin Lee (great tops but seen in countless scenes and both pretty much moved on).
    Brazilians (which we're not looking for TGT) Jessica Ketlen who has been doing this since 2011. And a bunch of other Brazilians (yawn). Nina Lawless (she's not been seen in years). Two Thais (!?!).

    This is always the problem with a 'who is your favorite' or 'who do you want to see more of' sort of question, and why it's hard for us to act on it. There just basically so much detritus to sort through before we get any meat. Which is why its so important for us to see the ratings and feedback on the sites - from qualified members, who can comment on what girls they want to see more of.

    I've tried to help on HA @corbin

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    I'm kinda laughing at Corbin's question he posed on Hungangels, as I'm sure he's feeling the frustration that I have, when one asks a simple question, and gets an array of answers that miss the point - or go off on their own fantasies. Just as an FYI also, the problem with feedback on a forum like HA (for us) is that often you will find the biggest mouths, are the ones who've never paid. Which is why I solicit for pertinent feedback here.

    Corbin asked the very simple question:
    In your opinion, what tgirl pornstars/performers (either shot with grooby or not) have great topping skills but we haven't seen enough of in these kind of scenes?

    And give the fair example of Angela Longcock.

    Answers include:
    Jesse Flores and Yasmin Lee (great tops but seen in countless scenes and both pretty much moved on).
    Brazilians (which we're not looking for TGT) Jessica Ketlen who has been doing this since 2011. And a bunch of other Brazilians (yawn). Nina Lawless (she's not been seen in years). Two Thais (!?!).

    This is always the problem with a 'who is your favorite' or 'who do you want to see more of' sort of question, and why it's hard for us to act on it. There just basically so much detritus to sort through before we get any meat. Which is why its so important for us to see the ratings and feedback on the sites - from qualified members, who can comment on what girls they want to see more of.

    I've tried to help on HA @corbin
    Jeezus I just saw HA... I see what you mean haha

    I am trying to be active on the comments on TGT actually. The rating system has changed? I haven't noticed it anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by corbindallas View Post
    Jeezus I just saw HA... I see what you mean haha

    I am trying to be active on the comments on TGT actually. The rating system has changed? I haven't noticed it anymore
    Stars are in the top right corner.

    Yeah, every time I ask for some simple feedback there, I get a million useless answers.
    It's like when we ask for prenominations for the TEAs, people submit models that haven't worked in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Stars are in the top right corner.

    Yeah, every time I ask for some simple feedback there, I get a million useless answers.
    It's like when we ask for prenominations for the TEAs, people submit models that haven't worked in years.
    I can't rate on mobile for some reason. So I haven't been able to rate any.

    Props to an awesome update this week grooby! Jessy Dubai wowza

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    This week's update for TGirl Tops was freaking awesome and smoking hot,and supercool to see the gorgeous and talented Jessy Dubai back as well. Keep up the superb work Grooby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightHawk View Post
    This week's update for TGirl Tops was freaking awesome and smoking hot,and supercool to see the gorgeous and talented Jessy Dubai back as well. Keep up the superb work Grooby.
    Most def. Knighthawk which TGT scenes stand out so far you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corbindallas View Post
    Most def. Knighthawk which TGT scenes stand out so far you think?
    The Patrice Hepburn,Alexa Scout,Avery Angel,Ivory Mayhem,Chelsea Marie,Jade Venus and Crystal Thayer TGT Scenes have stood out so far. And a few others as well. Hbu?.

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