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[Indy24]

your deductive logic comparison is not a valid comparison at all. The first 3 is a logical line of thinking and is valid. Like "If all boxes are cubes, and i just picked up a box, then that box is a cube." It would be a false assumption to say that "if i picked up a cube, then it is a box." Because all boxes are defined to be cubes, but it is not necessarily true that all cubes are boxes.

That's the sort of reasoning you have in the second logical sequence.

1) since love is blind and god is love, then god is blind
2)Ray charles is blind
3)it is false to assume ray charles is god simply because he is blind. being blind is a requirement of being god, but not a guarantee that one is god. God is blind, but there are things that are blind that are NOT god. By comparison, there are NOT things that are God without being blind. You could say "I am not blind so I am not God," and that would be logical.

It is a scientific fact that M2F transsexuals are genetic males. There are probably genetic factors that influence them to become transsexuals, but that does not change the scientific definition of what a male is. Science has agreed on the "XY sex-determination system," google it and read the wiki page. Basically, if you have xx sex chromosomes, you are female. If you have xy chromosomes, you are male. M2F transsexuals are defined as males, and men who have sex with them are, based on the definition of the terms involved, engaging in homosexual sex.

However, as I said, this is based on the scientific and technical definitions of the terms. These definitions are arbitrary social constructs. They are relative, and you can use your own system to define what your actions for yourself.

Me personally, as a student of science, I like to use general definitions that match mainstream definitions. Language is a tool for people to communicate, and it makes sense that everyone speak the same language. Technically, fucking transsexuals is homosexual. But the key is to not worry about terms and labels, and understand that although genetically male, transsexuals (the hot ones at least) have much more in common with females than males, and that grouping them in with men is based on arbitrary social constructs and definitions of sex, and that humans with xx sex chromosomes don't have a lease on femininity.

Oh.....?

What about women with AIS(Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome)???
Which are females born with vagina's but have XX chromosomes instead of the traditional Y in females and have testis inside them instead of ovaries.

Should any man who falls in love with one of the thousands of woman out there like this be deem gay by a technicality? Well tgirl lovers go through a similar struggle.

The point is there's so much more to a person then their private parts. And generalizing people based solely on their sexual appetite it's the biggest character flaw in the book.

So what good are the tools used to communicate if most people are just hanging on to the limited info they think they know about male and female chromosomes as if that's all there is to gender identity?

Long story short, you've been around long enough to witness the actions and characteristics of your peers to understand that all people born with dicks don't grow to be real men. Just like all females aren't ladies.

So I refuse to except societies idea of TS women.

[WhiteBoyBino]

looking good baby

[Indy24]

I can't help but question a tgirl's psyche when it's her own body part(s) that has her scrutinizing my sex life.

I'm not nursing anyones sexual and psychological hang ups. Your either a female or your not. What man in his right mind is going to sit there and chose arbitrary parts of a Tgirl to embrace.

That defeats the whole point of loving someone. Hell I doubt even handicap couples does that shit!

Plus it's laughable how someone mentions the word "pussy bottom" and everyones up in arms saying "oh well I've never liked cock in my ass" as if your scoring points somewhere. Sure a certain tgirl will give you the traditional pat on the head but about you're self respect?

You guys probably drool at tranny cocks more than the happiest bottom boy in here. So at the end of the day that tgirl just proved how easy it is to get you all by the balls.

I don't know what all these proud Tops are made of but my manhood has never been in my dick or my asshole. I doubt the womanhood born in tgirls is either.

But keep the facade going in sexual positions as you see fit.

[vidman]

Look, you guys are bottoms and so am I. Why you think we'd be compatible is beyond me. There are plenty of Tgirls who are tops that want praise and love for their cock I'm just not one of them. And as I said, unless you're giving me money I'm not gonna pretend to be into it.


None of you guys will convince me to change my mind. I am a very informed person when it concerns my own sexuality and gender identity. You all keep saying you're not asking me to change, so why is this a discussion?

Who's a bottom? I never told you that I was a bottom. I have no problem with men who are bottoms. I don't look at them any differently than I look at a guy who's a top. Are you jumping to conclusions or is your frustration causing you to begin speaking about things you know nothing about?

[ladylong22]

well idk how 2 say this not judging anybodys prefrence or anything but im fully verse some ppl i let TOP me and some i BOTTOM for and some i do both because i learned that i cant be satisfied by just doing just one i like it both ways and i wont cheat myself im not gonna satify somebody and not get satisfied the same way so thats that LOL

[kittymatthews]

Who's a bottom? I never told you that I was a bottom. I have no problem with men who are bottoms. I don't look at them any differently than I look at a guy who's a top. Are you jumping to conclusions or is your frustration causing you to begin speaking about things you know nothing about?

If you're not a bottom, why do you have an issue.

[kittymatthews]

Too much info here but ANY guy on this forum who isnt attracted by a lady with a cock or to suck cock...... Why the fuck are you not on Playboy or Hustler or any other red-neck mainstream boring site...... Anyone in here who claims something else probably doesnt know why they are here in the first place - and no: I dont like a cock up my ass but I also dont like hypocrites..... nuff said.

whos being a hypocrit?

[kittymatthews]

well idk how 2 say this not judging anybodys prefrence or anything but im fully verse some ppl i let TOP me and some i BOTTOM for and some i do both because i learned that i cant be satisfied by just doing just one i like it both ways and i wont cheat myself im not gonna satify somebody and not get satisfied the same way so thats that LOL

Yeah see, and thats fine


for me, orgasm does not equal good sex

[ladylong22]

well nobody knos good sex like i kno good sex see good sex is wen the other person tellany and everybody

[barrym]

I had to put my .02 in on this one.

To me it's a simple matter of respect and communication. If I met Kitty and we were attracted to each other and the relationship progressed to that point we would simply have a conversation about what we like and dislike and what we will and will not do. Hopefully we are compable and rock on but if not, we both move on and hopefully find what we are looking for somewhere else.

I'm a straight top who is attracted to Tgirls and women. I don't know what category that makes me nor do I care. I just know what I like and respect other people's preferences as well.

Oh by the way Kitty, I think you're sexy as hell. Do your thing baby!