How would feel if your girlfriend started receiving expensive gifts from a Rapper?

[Juan]

My GOD you just said pride was a bad thing and sucking a dick to survive was in essence better because it avoids the pitfall of pride.

Please quote exactly where I said that for it is obvious you are not reading what I wrote properly.

I have been homeless. I lost everything I owned in a fire. EVERYTHING outside of the drawers on my ass. Not buying food to put in a refrigerator? LMAO WHAT refrigerator? I didn't bat my eyes and have anybody give me anything.

You do know that you can get help from the Red Cross under such natural disasters so I am uncertain why you would not take advantage of it.

I washed my ass in the rest room of an office building. And here you're telling me about someone not being able to bat their eyes and have men pay their bills.

So you became homeless because of a fire, chose to wash yourself in an office building rather than seeking help from your local natural disasters agency in which, they will provide food and shelter? Was it your pride why you did not sign up or you have no idea why you are paying taxes?

Dude. Don't tell me that prostituting is the positive and pride is the negative. Let's stop using pride because there's all kinds of cliche's that go with that.

Again, please quote me where I stated that. Don’t compare yourself to teenage kid that got thrown out their parent’s home for being a transsexual. For you are a full fledged adult that held a job that allowed you to own or rent a home before your house or apartment caught on fire.

Let's use dignity. I didn't suck dicks to survive.


You're making excuses.

What you just shown is how a full fledge adult did not have a bank account more so credit cards to help them when an emergency strikes. I should hope you got your Money Management in order by now and you learned from your mistakes.

[newtothisphilly]

LMAO still making excuses. Knowing nothing about me you say perhaps I've never been broke to where I couldn't eat. I give an example and you criticize my choices. You assume I was a full fledge adult who should have had a bank account and credit cards. Yet when it's tgirls your story is a
teenager who is thrown out of their parents home. As if all the tgirls on a stroll are teenagers with no other options but sucking dick. In my case you will go line for line on why I should have done , something different. But in theirs it's perfectly ok to suck dick for a living because there is absolutely no other choice.

Not worth the discussion Seriously. You will excuse any behavior they have. And you will criticize any example given from my life.

Enjoy yourself excuse maker. For generations black people had shit done to them for being black in America. They wern't allowed to attend schools and when they were, the schools were underfunded. There were places blacks couldn't go. They couldn't get jobs. They went through unimaginable oppression, but they didn't start sucking dicks and walking strolls for a living.

Don't tell me that tgirls have it worse than any group that every walked the Earth and sucking dick for a living is understandable. That's BS excuses.

Earler someone said that many TS went to job interviews to be turned down. EVERYONE has had a hard time getting a job before. What was the education level of those who got turned down? What did they do to better themselves when turned down? Rejection is part of life. Don't tell me about "survival" and how I've never had to survive, then suggest I shouldn't have when I did.

Any excuse to allow for sucking dick for a living I guess.


What you said was "Pride is the biggest pitfall known to man and, many transsexuals have learned to swallow their pride in order to survive." You said it in a discussion where you were justifying sucking a dick for a living. Let's analyze what you said. Pride is the biggest Pitfall. (That says that pride is a negative. It's a pitfall.

But then you said " Transsexuals have learned to swallow their pride in order to survive. (So they avoided the biggest pitfall for their survival. That's a positive.

So yes I did read what you said exactly.

[bigruss]

i don't understand the point of this discussion. i don't care why people make the decision they make, its there life and they can do what they want with it.

[TurboMan]

Very well stated vidman.

[vidman]

All newtothisphilly is doing here is showing who he really is. He is a stereotypical person that only browses transsexual sites for mere perversions. He has no interests whatsoever in getting to know transsexual women, the community or their struggles. To say that a person who society deems a freak has the same struggle as a person who society does not deem a freak is idiotic. Their is a visual perspective here. If I am a gay man, unless I act feminine or show myself in a feminine light, no one knows. Therefore, making my struggle a bit easier than a transsexual who society sees as a man in a wig. Only those of us who truly has an appreciation of what transsexualism is all about knows that transsexuals are not men in wigs. They actually feel as if they are women born with a defect. So to walk around in society feeling a certain way about yourself but society is treating you like you're an abomination is a far cry from a person that society feels is "normal". You're damn right it's harder for transsexuals to get ahead in society based on society's ignorance and the fact that there is a physical appearance pressure put on all transsexuals. Society is visual and this is what fuels the ignorance and hatred. Society doesn't care about what kind of person you are on the inside, it just judges you for what it sees on the outside. So newtothisphilly, I really think you are out of your realm when it comes to these issues and like I said earlier......the only thing a transsexual can do for you is suck your dick and bend you over, or bend over for you. That's all you're interested in.

[newtothisphilly]

All newtothisphilly is doing here is showing who he really is. He is a stereotypical person that only browses transsexual sites for mere perversions. He has no interests whatsoever in getting to know transsexual women, the community or their struggles. To say that a person who society deems a freak has the same struggle as a person who society does not deem a freak is idiotic. Their is a visual perspective here. If I am a gay man, unless I act feminine or show myself in a feminine light, no one knows. Therefore, making my struggle a bit easier than a transsexual who society sees as a man in a wig. Only those of us who truly has an appreciation of what transsexualism is all about knows that transsexuals are not men in wigs. They actually feel as if they are women born with a defect. So to walk around in society feeling a certain way about yourself but society is treating you like you're an abomination is a far cry from a person that society feels is "normal". You're damn right it's harder for transsexuals to get ahead in society based on society's ignorance and the fact that there is a physical appearance pressure put on all transsexuals. Society is visual and this is what fuels the ignorance and hatred. Society doesn't care about what kind of person you are on the inside, it just judges you for what it sees on the outside. So newtothisphilly, I really think you are out of your realm when it comes to these issues and like I said earlier......the only thing a transsexual can do for you is suck your dick and bend you over, or bend over for you. That's all you're interested in.

NONE of this has anythig to do with our discussion How an individual feels inside and is judged by society doesnt say that after not finding a job you suck a dick. Yes society is ignorant. Yes you will experience discrimination no matter who you are. For them it is a different type. There is ignorance everywhere. TS aren't the only people in the world viewed as freaks. There are plenty of people with birth defects that you don't see on a stroll. Yes society is ignorant and they stereotype. Hell you don't know me and you've just in your ignorance assigned a bunch of stereotypical views to me. All I did was say you were making excuses because you are. So much is made of this is it a man or a woman. I see them as I see all human beings. Whether you call yourself male or female has nothing to do with the respect you get from me as one of God's children. Sexuality aside, they are human beings as we all are and that is how I treat them (and everyone else). Yes there is ignorance and hatred. But you obviously know nothing about humanity if this is how you are limited in your thinking

It seems you'll sterotype my view of them as what you want it to be and there is no room for me to disagree with you or else I'm all of the other things you say I am and they are only a sexual fetish to me and this is simply because I've disagreed with your excuses. I actually told you I don't deal with prostitutes female or trans but you ignored the fact that you know nothing about me to tell me about myself So wallow in your excuses. Give your people you call friends more excuses and there will still be transgendered individuals who work, go to school and better themselves without doing all of the things you've made excuses for.

Much of the struggle of TS is mental and folks like you are not making it better. Because many go through life feeling alone because of how society portrays them they don't know the struggles of the rest of people. They think they are their sexuality when there is a whole lot more to a person than that.

You are defending participation in an industry that makes that portrayal actual life while claiming to care, help and understand.

You are making excuses. Do you know how many people are out of work? Do you know how many people have been on 100s of interviews with no call back? It's not exclusive to trans people. Life is tough. You press on. If you are greater than your problems you get passed them. But it depends on your value system and how you value yourself

[vidman]

So now you're righteous? You first degrade the girls and now you want to soften up the tone. lol. Too late man. Anyone reading your original posts can tell what side of the tracks you live on as it relates to your feelings about transgendered society. You keep trying to find different types of people to include to attempt to validate your point. So now it's people with birth defects? Listen, if there was any sexual attraction about a person born with a foot growing from his head and he was struggling to make ends meet, he would be exploiting that too in the sex industry, so you can't compare transsexuals to people with birth defects. Transsexuals are sexual attractions. Most men, whether they will admit it or not, find Mia Isabella gorgeous and would lay down with her at the drop of a hat. You can't put Mia Isabella in the same category as the guy born with three arms or woman born with 3 breasts. Midgets work in the sex industry too. Why? Because there are lots of people out there that have a sexual attraction to midgets. So before you attempt to loosely use "birth defects" as your disclaimer, think about what you're saying.

What I'm telling you is the struggle for transsexuals is real and the opportunities that you or I get are not as plentiful for transsexuals. I'm not saying that there aren't any transsexuals who haven't transcended the struggles of her community; look at Janet Mock. She's a beautiful woman who, at one point, was in the sex industry too. Now she's a contributor for MSNBC. Go Janet!! She made it out. The glaring statistic is the percentage of transgendered women who achieve Janet's status. Most transsexuals rely or have relied on the sex industry at some point or another to achieve their success; again, Ms. Mock being an example. Now, how many non-transgendered males or females have visited the sex industry? Percentage-wise, sure as hell not as many as people in the transgendered community. That speaks volumes my friend.

This is my last comment about this topic as I have clearly made my point and I refuse to listen to you dog transgendered women while perusing transgendered sites.

[newtothisphilly]

Dude YOU said they feel as if they were born with a defect, but you criticize me for comparing to people with birth defects lol. Continue your excuse making for perfectly capable individuals to sell themselves as if that's their best and most marketable talent. It's idiotic and self defeating, but go rightahead

[vidman]

I will continue to be understanding and compassionate to people who are treated far worse than people like you and me. If that makes me an idiot then so be it.

[carmencream]

This is so entertaining! As a transgendered woman who works in the sex industry and maintains a quote on quote straight job, this is a tough lifestyle to live and isn't survived by many.We are all imperfect people here so I simply say never judge a person till you have walked a mile in their shoes.