Why are black men so bad at ...

[DirtySouth]

You are seriously mistaken if you believe every female would shun you for liking tgirls. There are a great many females that are into tgirls themselves, and even more that are into gay/bi men.

Where they do that at? You cant be serious. Are we talking from your experiences or are you making a theory? My experiences, and most other guys that I have personally dealt with over the years that are into the scene, have had ZERO luck revealing that to a female. Thats the quickest way to turn a woman (especially a black woman) against you.

Do you fear no one will show up at your funeral if it's known you liked tgirls, is it even possible to care once you're decaying flesh in the ground?

Ugh......yeah. No comment. A little too far.

Micheal Jackson fondled little boys and everyone still went ape-shit for him.

Yeah, after he DIED. When he was alive, he was crucified daily. He hadn't put out an album in a decade or more. He was still living off that 80s money.

Lil Wayne likes to kiss Baby on the mouth, look how long that was 'news'.

It still is news. Its brought up all the time, but wait...you dont listen to rap, you wouldnt know.

R Kelly likes to piss on underage girls, look how long that was 'news'.

Bringing up R.Kelly is a very bad talking point. We are talking about same sex relations. R kelly has sex with a girl at the end of a day, not a boy.

He was found not guilty. Plus the girl was what 14? less than a century ago, that would have been ripe age to plow that. Have yall seen these 14 year olds lately? They look 20 sometimes. I'm not saying I condone what he did, or for anyone else to do it, but it wasnt like she was a freaking 6 year old. It can be overlooked over time - as proven by how it was forgotten.

Have yall seen that chick in the video? She look like someone been blowing her back out for years anyway.

But again - it was a teenage girl. If it was a teenage boy, or a man period, he would been thrown under the bus.

Chingy looks and acts like a butch queen, how long was that news.

It never was in the news. Alongside that, America favors the pretty boy metrosexual (Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, etc.) over the traditional man-icons of the old days (Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, etc.) There was a case study just done on that. So Chingy may have been seen like that to YOU, but not to women. Especially when his music was hot.

Here is the case study: http://robertcargill.com/2009/10/07/...ess-manly-men/

There's been a few actors that have been caught with tgirl escorts, how long was that relevant news?

It wasnt relevant news long BUT it just terminated their careers or severely hindered them.

Hey we all are here because we like TGirls one way or another. Whether you praise them or despise them outside of sex - doesnt matter. If you value your interaction in the outside world, your career, and so on - your chances of your sexuality being accepted are zilch....especially if you are an African American.

Its just something you have to accept if its what you like. Trying to push the envelope on this is futile IMO. Gays are being accepted more and more everyday, but I dont think the case is the same for TS. Its the only lifestyle that is frowned upon by both Gay and Str8 communities....I speak mainly of the AFRICAN AMERICAN communities. We are not so forgiving of lifestyle choices - hence why the male talent pool is dried the fuck up.

....but who cares? Where's the porn!!! lol

[werwt22]

Has anyone here ever heard of ED? LMAO. Limp dick is limp dick. Happens to us all one time or another haha. Also some guys jerkoff before they have sex so they will last longer the second time around, and a lot of the time that has a negative effect. I remember times where I jerked off so much I had no interest in any ass at all for the entire day. Try jerking off before you get dressed to go to the club and see how much interest you still have in going LOL.

[Ms Remy M]

If your going to quote someone to prove a point at least use the entire quote! But before I get to that! Tevin campbell, Caught with a tranny, When is the last time you heard of him! Eddie Murphy, caught with a tranny, and didn't do anything outside of Schreck for a minute. He did that from the comfort of his home. Hugh Grant caught wit a hooker, What was the last movie you saw with him? And he was the next thing!

Oh, and "personal Hero"? are you kidding me? wow!

Now back to the other thing. If you feel the need to manipulate the facts just to be right than more power to ya! For those who actaully read my post they must be scratching their head at how you tried to portray it. And then to omit my point so you can claim it for your own! Priceless! I wont go into detail because i think it would be more enjoyable and educational for the forum to read my origional post, and then see what you attempted to pass as informative opinion. Come on guy, your better than that sophmoric hack job, arent you?

"personal hero" might have been too strong of a phrase. There are a lot of guys that would consider a guy who gets paid to fuck the "top rated girls" -someone of admiration- is that better? I certainly didn't mean "hero" in the firefighters of 9/11 sense, more of the Hugh Hefner, Shane Diesel, [insert male porn star name] sense. If I came across a guy that performed in a tgirl video I saw, I wouldn't try to ruin his public life and 'hate' on him. I would tell him, "hey good job, I like your work" and keep it moving. I'm an oddball though.

What facts did you present that I manipulated? Everything you said was "Your scenario". It read like your opinion on what might happen. I gave my opposing view. I'm trying to end the unnecessary fear guys that like tgirls have. At the end of the day, I'm not the one hiding behind the pc, hoping no one finds out I like tgirls. The gay community didn't gain acceptance by hiding in the closet, it was by coming out. The same needs to happen for the TS community.

Apparently ya'll are adamant about the black community ostracizing those into tgirls, so be it. Thankfully there are other races and people of sound mind and body who aren't afraid to stand up for what's "right". I hope those who do hide, don't spread the "hate" and bad mouth tgirls when around straight friends at least. Then again, I know people in this Industry who do exactly that and try with all their might to keep their "tgirl business" separate from the rest of their life. Good luck to you all in your endevours.

[Ms Remy M]

Where they do that at? You cant be serious. Are we talking from your experiences or are you making a theory? My experiences, and most other guys that I have personally dealt with over the years that are into the scene, have had ZERO luck revealing that to a female. Thats the quickest way to turn a woman (especially a black woman) against you.

Yep personal experinces, which you already knew, and from the experinces of others "IN" the community, I have a few models on the site that are into females and in turn females are into them.

If a person is hiding in the closet and ignoring the issues of coming out to their girlfriend/wife what experince are they basing it upon. If your only experince with a tgirl is through watching porn and/or escorts, you are not really in the scene. How many females rejected/accepted you after you told them you're into tgirls? Based on the earlier statement, once you tell 1 black female you are into tgirls the whole black community will find out in "x" amount of time. So once that happened initially, what's the point of continuing to hide? "Zero luck"? you and I both know that is a "lie to prove a point". Granted the ratio is bad, but it's not Zero. Are you seriously going to tell me that you told 1 female and she told every black person in Atlanta or NY that you like tgirls? And then you still continue to hide? What's the point of hiding at that stage?

I do think that "revealing" that you are into tgirls later down the road in a relationship would rarely work out. It's something that you should be upfront and honest about near the beginning. Same goes for tgirls that try to fool guys, there are certain ways to go about matters, and later isn't better.

Ugh......yeah. No comment. A little too far.

I know, I was pushing to see if conversation would sway that way. I apologize for any offense.

It never was in the news. Alongside that, America favors the pretty boy metrosexual (Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, etc.) over the traditional man-icons of the old days (Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, etc.) There was a case study just done on that. So Chingy may have been seen like that to YOU, but not to women. Especially when his music was hot.

I've read a similar study, but didn't revolve around the pill. This isn't what I'm referring to. It was a youtube or maybe mediatakeout vid someone sent before. I can't remember which, I don't care to keep up with celebrity gossip, just was a list off the top of my head. You say they have all burned in "celebrity HELL" for dating tgirls then I stand corrected.

Its the only lifestyle that is frowned upon by both Gay and Str8 communities....I speak mainly of the AFRICAN AMERICAN communities.
....but who cares? Where's the porn!!! lol

Gay men frown upon tgirls because tgirls are far more easily able to hook up with the coveted straight guys. There's been an unfortuante surge in gay men who'll "play" the tgirl so that they can hook up with a straight guy, and then revert back to verbally knocking the girls. Of course, if you hang around in the gay community you will see that the animosity extends in every direction and everyone is subject to a "read".

On that R.Kelly matter, bad example ok, but a pedophile is a pedophile. It doesn't matter that he's a black man that continues to makes great music. I don't care what was allowed a century ago, nor that her "fast ass" was consenting, or that he had the money and lawyers to make sure he didn't go to jail. If a grown ass man or anyone for that matter tried to "plow" my neice I'd make sure they'd wish they were already in Hell. Any parent that has that "oh well" mentality to that situation ought to be ashamed of themselves, and pray their children are never in that position.

[Spellion]

Being kind of new to the BTG word,I would put it to you like this...The guys that respond & don't show are more likely trying to build they self up but are worrying about they face being exposed,but the fact of the matter is that if anyone seen there face,they are into the same thing.So the ones that do show up that fail are the type to just be out here to be out here!!! I say do better at casting & this problem won't be a prolem!!!

[nycguy]

"personal hero" might have been too strong of a phrase. There are a lot of guys that would consider a guy who gets paid to fuck the "top rated girls" -someone of admiration- is that better? I certainly didn't mean "hero" in the firefighters of 9/11 sense, more of the Hugh Hefner, Shane Diesel, [insert male porn star name] sense. If I came across a guy that performed in a tgirl video I saw, I wouldn't try to ruin his public life and 'hate' on him. I would tell him, "hey good job, I like your work" and keep it moving. I'm an oddball though.

What facts did you present that I manipulated? Everything you said was "Your scenario". It read like your opinion on what might happen. I gave my opposing view. I'm trying to end the unnecessary fear guys that like tgirls have. At the end of the day, I'm not the one hiding behind the pc, hoping no one finds out I like tgirls. The gay community didn't gain acceptance by hiding in the closet, it was by coming out. The same needs to happen for the TS community.

Apparently ya'll are adamant about the black community ostracizing those into tgirls, so be it. Thankfully there are other races and people of sound mind and body who aren't afraid to stand up for what's "right". I hope those who do hide, don't spread the "hate" and bad mouth tgirls when around straight friends at least. Then again, I know people in this Industry who do exactly that and try with all their might to keep their "tgirl business" separate from the rest of their life. Good luck to you all in your endevours.

When someones words are taken out of context, And edited to omit pertinent information that refutes someone elses point, That is manipulation. The "fargo" reference seems funnier, when you delete the fact that I already said that about big citys. And omiting the fact that I never said it was a friend who blows you up, makes criticizing ones friends seem appropriate, just not accurate.

There are those of us who live in the "black" community and there are others who live in the "world" community. There are differences whether you want to accept it or not. my example was not a "scenario" it was a names omited version of actual events, and lives. not some cute peggy comment. There is always going to be those that like to expose others to take light off of them. and word does spread faster than you think, when you know enough people. Like treach said, and I paraphrase; "if you aint from the ghetto, and you dont come to the ghetto, then you dont know what happens in the ghetto, so stay the fuck out the ghetto!

And an other note more related to the main topic. Did PK Vegas say that guys are crazy to expect to get paid cause Natalia can have any guy she wants?!? Fuck kinda crack he on. Roxy Reynolds could get a dick photoshopped on her and she would be the hottest bitch here! and dudes still get paid to fuck her. you could have an opportunity to fuck the girl of your choice here in your own video title and there are only two catches, One your not getting paid, and two your ten closest friends/family get a private screening. Any takers?!? Besides Remy, Tony V and Seanchai? Dont everybody stand up at once! Not only are you the tranny fucker, but you did it for free?? Ya'll dont understand the hood at all! The only saving grace for the subject of my example was that he got paid to do it, at least. And he won awards for his hustle, which makes him OG in almost any hood that respects hustle.

[peggygee]

Yep personal experinces, which you already knew, and from the experinces of others "IN" the community, I have a few models on the site that are into females and in turn females are into them.

Not one of the models, but I have in the past and could in
the future kick it with the right natal female, particularly as
I don't have to stick anything in her.

On that R.Kelly matter, bad example ok, but a pedophile is a pedophile. It doesn't matter that he's a black man that continues to makes great music. I don't care what was allowed a century ago, nor that her "fast ass" was consenting, or that he had the money and lawyers to make sure he didn't go to jail. If a grown ass man or anyone for that matter tried to "plow" my neice I'd make sure they'd wish they were already in Hell. Any parent that has that "oh well" mentality to that situation ought to be ashamed of themselves, and pray their children are never in that position.

This hits close to home for me, and I have absolutely no
sympathy for pedophiles.

R. Kelly, Michael Jackson may have been talented entertainers,
but molesting children is unconscionable and unforgivable.

[TVSURFER]

Not one of the models, but I have in the past and could in
the future kick it with the right natal female, particularly as
I don't have to stick anything in her.






This hits close to home for me, and I have absolutely no
sympathy for pedophiles.

R. Kelly, Michael Jackson may have been talented entertainers,
but molesting children is unconscionable and unforgivable.

Were they found guilty of those accusations?

[peggygee]

Were they found guilty of those accusations?

M. Jackson, indicted and brought to court twice, admits to Ed Bradley
and the world on 60 Minutes that he doesn't see a problem that he a
grown man sleeps with minors that are not related to him, not to
mention the times that he paid off in civil suits.

1994, 26 year old R. Kelly marries Aaliyah, who is 15 at the time. The
marriage license was falsified to state her age as 18, her parents have
the marriage annulled.

2002, indicted on 21 counts of child pornography stemming from a videotape
that allegedly shows him having sex and peeing on an underage girl.

2003, already awaiting trial on child pornography charges in Chicago, R. Kelly
was arrested Wednesday morning in Miami on additional child porn charges.
Authorities said they found 12 photos of a underage nude girl at the singer's
home.

............

To answer your question, no, they were not found guilty in a court of law,
but I know for sure that anyone that cared for their kids would not have
them around either one.

[roninva]

Do the others think that Natalia and I are just sitting down there and we have to pay some guy to fuck her off camera??? This girl walks down the street and she is like a dick magnet
PK Vegas

Maybe you should pay them, look top male pornstars get paid for being able to perfomer, and there are black guys that are already doing gay and tranny porn already who don't have performance problems, just hire them and get the scene done. you know they aren't going to work for free and your making a profit off of this already, so break down and hire proven talent to get the job done. stop going the cheap route