Quote Originally Posted by MrF View Post
One thing is for sure, the dynamics between TG and men is very different, on average, than the dynamic between GG and men (GG = genetic women). GG have their problems with men, but the TG problems are in a whole different league: not being taken seriously, being treated as a sex object, being a secret fetish, you name it.

I think a major difference is the lack of ability to have children. Now, a lot of guys aren't thinking about "reproduction", they're just thinking of getting their dick wet. But even the most mindless horndog is driven by his instincts, much like the behavior of a simple insect is driven by instinct.

Women use more energy for reproduction (gestation, child-rearing), so they are more circumspect; for men a tiny investment in energy may suffice -- hit and run -- but the women tend to demand as part of the deal that men invest far more energy (marriage, long-term support, respect). Typically this dynamic does not exist between men and TG, and it distorts things. Combine that with the disapproval of society and you have a tough situation. Not sure what to do about it ...
Well said brother. Its hard not to treat a girl like a sex object when 95% of them are escorts. When it comes to relationships, I tell some of my closest t-girl friends that they will see a huge difference in the men that they attract if they stop escorting. Most just ignore me and would rather make a man conform to dating an escort rather than to take responsibility to change their lifestyle on their own. Some girls just cant give up the fast money. I don't knock them for that. I just have a problem when the girls throw the double standard on a man thats sincere about dating them.

On the other hand, lots of gay couples form stable long-term relationships based on love and mutual respect, so it's impossible to make universal generalizations, and yes anything can happen.
When you have a gay couple, you have two people that are entirely attracted to each other and have ignored the issue of reproduction and will take the road to adoption if need be. A str8 male who dabbles in trannies and a tranny herself are usually at odds about that /and in most relationships, its the deal breaker. A guy wanting to be with a tranny is still a guy who leans towards being with a woman. He's going to be constantly reminded of his instincts to have children. Its like having a Ferrari with a Honda Civic engine. Yeah it looks like a Ferrari but when you go to hit the throttle, youre reminded of what it really is. Also, a lot of t-girls want to be submissive in responsibilites (the feminine emotions) to the household but want to be dominant in calling the shots (masculine instincts) and this usually can become a problem when dealing with a respectable man. Yes, the same can be said about GGs. Just more rampant per ratio with the Ts in my experience.