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    You're absolutely right! I wasn't referring to your article. I was referring to the other stuff that I had seen and heard throughout the day.

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    I agree with TVSurfer and Ty-Clone statements, no comment probably was the best thing to say, and she and any other ts without a name and sex change will be charged as a him. Asia will go to a male prison and many do offer segregation for HIV victims, gays, and ts if they so choose.

    It's way to early for us to speculate over what happen. RIP to the deceased and may the higher powers watch over Asia. We really only know what she told her family members (which doesn't make it the truth) and what they in turn told the media, but what we do know for a fact is that she murdered him, his side of the story wont be heard. Talk of a defense fund sounds a bit premature Koanbred, do you know her personally? If so I can almost understand wanting to jump to her defense, but I dont so I rather wait until more facts are known. I've dealt with domestic violence cases before and from what I've seen the guilty call family to see them one last time with out bars in between, the innocent (self-defense) dial 911.

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    I'm just for Asia, right or wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred View Post
    I'm just for Asia, right or wrong!
    lol fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred View Post
    I'm just for Asia, right or wrong!
    Right or wrong? That's just weird. I don't know her or the facts. I don't know if you know her but I'm sure you don't know the facts. So to blindly support someone in murder, regardless of the facts, would be problematic for most people, myself included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Right or wrong? That's just weird. I don't know her or the facts. I don't know if you know her but I'm sure you don't know the facts. So to blindly support someone in murder, regardless of the facts, would be problematic for most people, myself included.

    Amen seanchai.

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    Hope is to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives!

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    Asia is a transgendered woman. This society is quite cruel to the transgendered community. Most are forced to live along the margins of our society. Most have no hope to pursue a business or a legitimate profession due to their condition. Most transgendered people are harassed and ridiculed from childhood throughout their entire adult lives. Many who have not been able to suppress their true feelings till after grade school, find it easier to drop-out, so they do.

    Most tgirls that I know are either on some type of financial assistance from the government, they live off of relatives, friends, or sex-work. This type of living is a direct result of being continually ostracized by society and discriminated against. For them, the cards of life have been heavily stacked against them. I therefore, sympathize with their plight completely.

    In the case of Asia, it is true that I don't know her, but it is also true that there are thousands of Asias out there who have lived through hell due to employment discrimination, social rejection (all of their lives), mental and physical abuse from boyfriends, and last but certainly not least, AIDS.

    Asia, I believe felt as though she had been handed the death sentence by Nevith. We don't know if Nevith knew that he had it and didn't tell it or just what the particulars were. However, I lost my sister three years ago because a stupid no good asshole who had AIDS, knew it, but didn't make her aware of it, until she got diagnosed. That's when he finally decided to admit it! Now, they're both dead!

    No, I don't like the fact that someone was murdered, Lord knows I'm sick of all the murder that takes place in all our communities. I'm sick of all kinds of killing, peroid. That's why I want us out of Afganistan and Iraq right now! However, I still support our troops, right or wrong!

    That's why I say, I support Asia, right or wrong!!!

    It's all about Loyalties at this point...

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    I have known Asia since '02 (along with vman) she can be a lose cannon at times. I remember she would call it "thuggin in the streets". From what i can tell through media coverage. I find it hard for her to get off with self-defense considering mutiple stab wounds from the back. How can you defend yourself if you are stabbing a person in the back; even if you are getting your ass kicked? There are far too many holes in her story.

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    Koanbred, do you actually know Asia? You seem to be making some big assumptions based on what's actually been presented by those articles.

    Sad to hear about this, regardless.

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    I've Known a Thousand Asias...

    The only things that I will assume are that, the transgendered community will continue to be oppressed until far into the future and that Asia Santana is innocent until proven guilty!

    I still stand in support of Asia!!!

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