Website - thinking Stage

[Ms Remy M]

I've given a multitude of producers and models information and feedback on whether to do a site or not and what to do when they do get it going, sometimes we promote them, sometimes not but the information I've given has probably helped them save $1000's.

I'm not worried about competition per se, but when we've spent a lot of time, effort and money building a site and a forum like this which is open to the community, whether they are paying members or not, then I'm not going to be happy at someone stepping in and using it as their own market research. It's just rude. You don't step into my coffee shop and ask customers how they would like their coffee if you built a new store next door? You can taste our coffee and read our customer comments - hell you can even read the free market research we've done for you ... but have some respect.

I wasn't aware that he was a performer? Has he been in any of our stuff?

*nods* I do agree.

Not that I know of, I told him when he applied to be a performer for me, I was really looking for someone with experince in front of camera already, as I wanted to avoid my previous blunders in Hardcore. He has since informed me that he has filmed with... I forget now which solo site girl it is. I kind of wanted to avoid using people that were not close to me, thankfully my current new performer is, as I didn't want the extra variables of having to make sure both ts model and male performer show up for shoots. It's enough hassle making sure the girls show up, so my current guy works as my assistant and male performer so girls get to meet him before hand that way, and anxiously anticipate working with him on camera. However; I know my current performer really didn't want to be an assistant, more so a male porn star, and I'd hate to hold him back in anyway, so if/when he moves on I may end up having another opening, though I have to admit, our current situation has me spoiled especially since he's kindred spirit and I'll miss him if/when he leaves. Nothing wrong with having multiple guys though really, never know when I will have a chance to do some gang bang scene or something lol

[Ms Remy M]

I for one Remy, think that you're a great photographer and a really decent human being. Thus far, it has been a real pleasure interacting with you. It has indeed been truly an honor corresponding with someone of your superlative caliber of professionalism. Your presence and work-ethic I am certain, will be appreciated anywhere. Grooby is quite fortunate to have you!

Thanks for the compliments. I'm just a small cog in a very big wheel, trying to do my part to keep things a-spinning lol Honestly though, judging by the photogs no longer with us (just got some recent news on Steve in Atl last night and he's a far better producer than I), and what the competing company's photogs do, I doubt I could get work anywhere else in this industry. When I worked in the music business, I was very much of the mind that if I'm not working for "...Music Group" I rather not be in that industry at all, basically how I feel about Grooby as well. lol I reckon I'd do the starving artist bit, sitting on the 'strip' trying to sell art projects for a few bucks.

[CANE]

I'm very thankful to Remy for even asking me to be his assistant...I've learned soooo much about the industry from him and I truly enjoy being on shoots meeting the girls we have so much fun;I haven't been on one that wasn't...Don't worry Remy I'm not going anywhere anytime soon...

[BTGP]

how is steve from atl? whats his status?

[Ms Remy M]

how is steve from atl? whats his status?

From what I hear, he's still at his 'day job' and still up to his old hi-jinks with the tgirls. Don't feel comfortable saying much more in a public space, but it's good to hear him doing well for himself

[MrKnockOut]

Sean you have a point. I will concede as much. But I guess the thing that troubles me the most about this whole exchange between us all; the original poster, myself, you, remy and others is that we are arguing about decorum in a post where a man, one of your most loyal employees, and a friend of mine, stated he's about to be homeless. You lamented uknown for being unprofessional but damn dude, you just turned a blind eye on remy's reply? Really? Sorry man. I know you guys have a business to run and I don't know if you and remy had offline convos (and I know remy don't like handouts) but it would have been in good taste to acknowledge that you were aware of his situation as his employer and im assuming friend(?). I guess its all business with you guys and I honestly can't knock you for it if that's how you choose to operate. just as you pointed out about unkown5, its a matter of class.

Hope things/business picks up for you remy. You're a good dude. If I can help, again, lemme know.

K.O.

[Ms Remy M]

I appreciate your words, and I did make my situation know to him a week ago, so it wasn't new info when I wrote about it this forum. Not even sure why I mentioned it, other than to drive home the point extra business would be appreciated.

One point to understand, I'm not an employee, only a freelance photog (Independent Contractor), and even if I was an employee for any company I wouldn't expect or ask for any assistance. From a business perspective, it seems absurd, this is a porn company not the Oprah Winfrey Show. When I first started I had some stumbles and after paying models and other expenses I had a few shoots rejected (which isn't easy to swallow) but a learning experince, realizing that any shoot could potentially be my last is a great motivator to do as good as I possibly can lol. It made me step up the techincal (lighting and such) quality and I think I'm better for it now. Considering some of the work I submit are not the 'hits' other producers bring in, I'm always more than grateful that I'm simply allowed to continue shooting, that alone is more than enough. Life is full of hard knocks, the world doesn't stop spinning for anyone, I see it as another humbling experince.

[MrKnockOut]

I appreciate your words, and I did make my situation know to him a week ago, so it wasn't new info when I wrote about it this forum. Not even sure why I mentioned it, other than to drive home the point extra business would be appreciated.

One point to understand, I'm not an employee, only a freelance photog (Independent Contractor), and even if I was an employee for any company I wouldn't expect or ask for any assistance. From a business perspective, it seems absurd, this is a porn company not the Oprah Winfrey Show. When I first started I had some stumbles and after paying models and other expenses I had a few shoots rejected (which isn't easy to swallow) but a learning experince, realizing that any shoot could potentially be my last is a great motivator to do as good as I possibly can lol. It made me step up the techincal (lighting and such) quality and I think I'm better for it now. Considering some of the work I submit are not the 'hits' other producers bring in, I'm always more than grateful that I'm simply allowed to continue shooting, that alone is more than enough. Life is full of hard knocks, the world doesn't stop spinning for anyone, I see it as another humbling experince.

This is what makes u a quality dude my man. Best of luck. Minor setback for a major comeback.

Btw, did u hit up that girl I told u about. She's waiting. I think she has star potential and she's cool as hell. One of my hidden gems.

[GroobySteven]

C'mon - I'm not going to discuss a photographers personal situation here, even if he did bring it up. Anything regarding those matters would be between him and I.
He knows I respect and (adore!?!) like him very much as a photographer and a geezer.

[werwt22]

Hmmmm...I will say it should have been a PM. Shit...after reading just a few posts, even if your new, you know who is who. But at the same time it doesnt draw the same attention. Cant be mad at a guy for shootin an idea out there where you know so much traffic wanders through. Shit I opened the thread just to see you'll argue LOL. Morals and principles in porn? IDK....whole new thread HAHA.