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to many damn lies for me women lie men lie woman lie men lie woman lie men lie everybody lie
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We've had this discussion in detail on one of you're youtube vids that was titled on the topic. And at the end of the discussion you had seem to have lightened up a little but it seems you're back to square one.
You want it both ways (pun intended) you want a guy who's openminded enough to see you as a woman trapped in a male body yet closed minded to the point where he doesn't see what's in front of him when you open your legs.
News flash, whether a man claims to be strictly top or not. Ignoring a womans "dick" is like ignoring a 3rd eye when it's staring right at you. And since TS women aren't folklore or a fiction novel, it's kind of hard to suspend disbelief when balls are touching while you're having sex with said tranny from the back.
Every one has there preference but it's not what you do it it's how you come off that turns some men off to the point where they don't even wanna be friends with you anymore. Then you just shut down and dismiss it for what ever reason and run to Youtube posting a rant on why you don't like black guys.
Thus the circle of self-destruction continues.
Long story short your preference has merit and no one can take that from you. But you logic isn't sound, and deep down I believe you realize this but instead of just saying "Topping just isn't my thing" you use that "gay" word as a scare tactic ironically the same way genetic women use it on guys who date women like yourself.
Thus leaving a lot of guys who date both types of women saying fuck it and just using both types of women as he sees fit. Getting what ever he can get when ever he can get it while secretly resenting both at the same time because dispite what both parties think. Theres quite a few of us who date Tgirls who are verse or top but don't like men. So for women and trannies to say it just because they don't like a certain sex act or me dating a certain type of person is just plain ignorant and insulting.
F.Y.I. the dick obsessed theory loses gravity once you do a little research on human anatomy an discover that the penis and clitoris aren't that much different from each other.
So for me it's just a matter of hanging on to the intelligent TS women who like what she sees in a full length mirror unclothed and unashamed....
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Have you ever been fucked by a clitoris?
Have you ever begged for a clitoris to cum inside of your mouth?
I dont care if it turns you off and you dont want to be my friend, I feel the way I feel. I do realize how crazy it sounds, but I've tried to appease men for a very long time allowing them to appreciate, masturbate suck and try to get fucked my penis. Nothing disgusts me more.
BUt again, this is me and my preference. You know you're not a homosexual, why do you need my validation? Furthermore, why do you care if i express my tastes? My reaction should describe to you the severity of my feelings towards men who bottom or are cock obsessed.
You can absolutely not compare the penis to the clitoris. Sure, they are very similar, but they obviously function in different ways. Comparing them is silly. I've heard plenty of men try to explain t me that sucking cock is like eating a woman out. Wrong. Sucking cock is sucking cock.
I'm not trying to guilt trip you. If you like cock, like cock. I'm just saying that isn't what I'm into. And I am aboslutely sick and tired of trying to prove to a man that I am a woman. I never ask for a man to ignore it, i ask for him to not be penetrated by it. Matrubating, touching and grabbing are very different from bending over like a girl and begging for cock.
Asking for a guy to be a total top is not farfetched. In my experience in life, ive learned that no one can define you but you can certainly define other people's context as it pertains to you. I view bottoms as effeminate and ultimately woman. Is that true? No. But that's how i feel when it has to do with me.
Why can't you just throw up your hands, mark it down as ignorance and move on. You will not win this debate with me. You will never convince me to fuck a guy in the ass or let him suck my cock Never. So let it be.
Believe it or not, there are a lot of men who are sexually compatiable with me. Just becuase you havea preference doens't mean every man does. You cannot and will not instruct me on how to navigate the world as a transsexual woman. Your opiions do not dictate my personal feelings towards sex, JUST as mine shouldn't effect yours.
Indy, we dont get along. A smart man would leave it at that and move on. You wil not fix me. I can accept that you are a bottom and you like tgirl penis. i can accept that as a reality and I do not judge you for that, hwoever, when ti comes to a man's interaction with me, that is how i feel. Do you understand? Do you get it? We've had this conversation so many times it shocks me that you're surprised i feel this way.
I am not, i repeat, am not ashamed of my penis. There are photos of my penis on THIS website. i am not ashamed of my penis. However, accepting your penis as a reality is not the same as enjoying it sexually.
you are NOT a transsexual woman. You can NOT tell me how to have sex or express and enjoy my gender.
Trust, if that is the first thing out of your mouth when talking to that sort of man you can bet a good percentage of them will not show their hand in that area. I'm in no way telling you to change your taste, in fact a better way to get to the truth is to pretend like you enjoy fucking guys in the ass when holding conversations with them. At that point they are more likely to let you know how they get down. When they reveal the truth, the cut off in communication can be swift.
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Which i'd rather it be, honestly. I mean..
unlike you trying to hide your interest in trans women from cisgendered women who would judge you, I'm a bottom and I only enjoy sex as a bottom. You can still enjoy sex with a woman if she doesn't know you like transsexuals? See there's the difference between both scenarios. I mean no offense but i definitelly feel the way I feel and you've gotta pay me a lOT of money (and im not a hooker) to get me to compromise that. lol.
As to pretening i like to fuck guy int he ass, the sad truth is that if i liked up 10 guys, 8 of them would be hard as a motherfucker if i told them that. And I dont want that. Gotta understand, the thought of doing that makes me pretty sick in my stomach. Even pretending. I pretty much like to say straight out that i'm a bottom and that havin sex with me is pretty much like fucking a cisgendered girl...except i dont get pregnant and my sex drive is higher hahaha.
Honesty is the BEST way to keep yourself out of uncomfortable situations.
Wouldn't you rather a girl you're with to be down with you liking tgirls as opposed to her finding out, catching you and freakin out? Isn't that what they call the DL mentality?
So it doesn't matter if you are dealing with a guy who truly likes to get fucked in the ass, just as long as he knows upfront that you aren't willing to do it. Seems like you want dudes to lie because most of them don't naturally fit the criteria anyway according to you with that 8 out of 10 ratio.
When dating one does not owe anyone a damn thing, so to say that a person is "hiding" information is a bit strong. "DL mentality" doesn't even apply. Are we now calling trannies men? People who put all of their business out in the street aren't altogether honest, they may be naive and simple minded.
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Okay who in the blue hell said anything about forcing someone to use their dick???
I've already won this debate simply on the basis that you tend to act erratic when talking on a subject that backs you in a corner.
Wiki the word "CLITORIS" before you try to discredit one of my comments. Clits and dicks are made of the same skin tissues and both gets erect when stimulated. I didn't say they were exactly the same but they have more similarities then contrast. The using the clit to fuck some one comment was ridiculous but the largest recorded clitoris was measured at around 4.5 inches
And for the record having a debate with some one doesn't mean I hate them. There's some things we may agree on and some we don't. The reason this escalated was because a certain person made a comment about your dick which stated you weren't a shamed of but instead of excepting the compliment you tore into him as if you were a top.
Thus leaving the poor guy speechless.
I've been scrutinized and reprimanded on this site about being respectful and I just feel that it should go for everyone.
I'm not just posting all this motivate you to use you privates I could care less. It's when you go on a rant making statement that aren't true that people start to give you the side eye.
So to those how are reading this and are on the fence about the subject. I say being gay is a lifestyle but being top by a tgirl or pegged by a genetic woman is an event.
Much respect to those who know the difference!
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hahhaa. You totally don't get what i'm saying so let me break it down for you
I dont like bottoms
If you are a BOTTOM
meaning a man who has a major preference towards getting fucked in the ass
I am not interested
If you are a bottom, you will not be sexually satisfied by me
I do not like to waste people's time and I dont like mine wasted either
If you do not primarily enjoy fucking ass and getting head, then we are not compatible
I'm not asking anyone to lie
if 8 out of 10 tranny chasing men want cock up their ass, i want the 2 that can do without it.
I believe in quality not quantity
I do not believe in compromise when it comes to sex. I will never stick my dick in a man's ass. Again, that's what men are for.
If you think the majority of men interested in transsexuals dont live a DL lifestyle you're seriously losing it.
And if you dont understand that i am a total bottom who only wants me who enjoy being a top then you probably aren't smart enough to keep this back and forth going. I dont think I have ever been so clear about anything in my entire life.
So in short
I'd rather tell a man "nothing turns me off more than a man who prefers getting fucked in the ass by a transsexual" and get the "well fuck you, i'll find a tranny that likes topping"reaction than i would lying about my preference, or rather, requirements. I look for a man who is able to hear that and react almost as if me saying that is so off point from who he is that it's laughable.
You see
Listen, if you guys like tranny cocks in all your holes, that's fine by me. Dont be offended by my personal view of things. If it puts you off, then you're not the sort of guy i'm trying to attract. Do you GET that? Or should i explain that again, slower?
As far as your poorly constructed "man who likes tranny porn" vs "transsexual who is a total bottom" argument, I hope you see how flawed that comparison is. You pointed it out perfectly. It's not your partner's business to know you're interested in tranny porn. However, a man who pursues me sexually and romantically will NEED to know that i'm not going to fuck him in the ass or let him slobber on my cock before going forward.
Do you understand? There's quite a difference.
And you want to talk about natural? What's unnatural is a man who has a preference towards anal pleasure. Now, notice how i said preference. What's unnatural is me offering bomb head and a tight ass and getting "well can i suck your cock or how about ya fuck me".
Answer me this. What -CAN- you call a man who has an infatuation with transsexual's penis? To the point that he cannot be with one who does not want to top him in some way shape or form? What do you call a man who, when presented with a feminine body is only interested in the part of her body that isnt feminine?
I'd love to know.
See look, i'm not here trying to sell myself as the next black tgirls model. Truth be told even if i did model for this website, my sexual preference wouldnt matter as the viewers are never going to sleep with me. Stating my sexual preference only becomes sticky when i ruin people's fantasy of dominate transsexual who wants to fuck the shit out of them.
I applogize if stating my preference so bluntly offends you, but understand that it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with me and the way i state it is the way i fee about it and that should be enough.
I think it's sad i've got to sit here and try to make an argument for men to be tops. Aye.
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Please dont make the assumption that I am stupid and misinformed.
I'll ask you again, how many times has a man asked a cisgendered woman to fuck him in the ass with her clit
you may not hate me but you obviously feel the need to constantly state how much you disagree with me or how on the fence you are about and how much you shake your head. It's just silly. I believe what i believe and you believe what you believe. Having had these conversations with me before, i dont know how and why you'd think we could have them again and things would chnge. And if you dont want them to change, then why have the conversation. Pointless, no?
I will admit that the way i responded to Cosmic was inappropriate and it wasn't directed towards him but generally to everyone and just a general statement of my sexual preference. I think Cosmic is a good guy, a nice guy, but you're not going to get away with hitting on me and then acting like you didn't. That's just lame.
I'm sorry the way i express myself rubs everyone the wrong way. Generally i'd try to tone it down and bring it back, but i've learned that's not a way to go about things so i stand by what i said and how i said it.
I don't want to be lumped in with the guys that have sex with tgirls. There are obviously some guys who have a dog in this race and may feel offended. You can tell the guys you talk to whatever the hell you want to whenever you want to...
Now, the new thing that I picked up on is that you are like the tranny version of some black women that have sexual boundaries they won't cross that are pretty commonly crossed by non black women. For instance, back in the 80's and further in the past, you could consider yourself a lucky man if you had a black woman who gave you head. In the 90's and up till today you have black women that will consider a man gay if they want to fuck her in the ass. Then you have black women who will consider a man gay if he asks her to toss his salad. You pretty much have access to all of that when dealing with non black women. I think one would be hard pressed to find a white tranny who will outright tell a man that the dick is completely off limits. Pussy isn't enough for some men, and certainly ass & head aren't enough for some tranny chasers.
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