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    Quote Originally Posted by lament View Post

    But I don't think there are many ts interested dudes that are like that.
    You'd be surprised

    Soemoen told me the other day in my cam shows that my cock was too small so they didn't want to private with me?

    what?

    The amount of guys who message me and say "oh you're pretty HOW BIG IS YOUR COCK?" I mean come on guys. Let's be honest, there is nothing feminine or hetero about a penis. Nothing. And I for one am tired being reduced to my penis every time a trans attracted man wnats to talk to me. How can i posibly feel lik this guy isn't gay when all he cares about is cock? Are you serious?

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    I'm so done having this conversation

    You guys just dont understand my sexulaity at all so I'm not going to try to defend it anymore.


    i like guys who arent' obsessed with sucking cock and getting fucked.

    Not that I wanted to bring this up again but, Cosmic is a total bottom.


    And I simply dont understand how you can sit there and call a guy completley heterosexual when the only way he can get off is getting fucked int he ass.

    BUt whatever, you guys can validate that as hetero all you want, that's your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidman View Post
    Kitty, not to jump on the bandwagon, but this is exactly where I was trying to go with you during our debate but I chose to digress because I didn't want to start any hard feelings between us. But I totally agree with Indy and Lament. They are definitely more articulate than I am on getting their points across on this subject matter.
    Look, you guys are bottoms and so am I. Why you think we'd be compatible is beyond me. There are plenty of Tgirls who are tops that want praise and love for their cock I'm just not one of them. And as I said, unless you're giving me money I'm not gonna pretend to be into it.


    None of you guys will convince me to change my mind. I am a very informed person when it concerns my own sexuality and gender identity. You all keep saying you're not asking me to change, so why is this a discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lament View Post
    You brought up a good point, where she draws the line of what is "cock hungry." What she jumped on that ude earlier for saying was excessive imo. He said she had a pretty penis and she throws him in the cock hungry box. If a guy is cock hungry for thinking a ts has a nice penis, 99% of dudes that are into ts are cock hungry. The other 1 % is probably new to ts and will soon get used to/like the cock. I myself was in that 1%, not in the majority.

    But if by cock hungry she means a guy that cares about NOTHING but cock, and would take an ugly dude in dress look with a big dick over very hot chick with small, yeah, that is cock hungry and would probably enjoy dudes more than ts if he got over the gay phobia.

    But I don't think there are many ts interested dudes that are like that.
    Exactly, but another interesting issue comes to mind that seems to be constantly swept under the rug.

    And that's with these guys who will have nothing to do with a penis but will fuck a guy in the ass just ass quickly as they would our lovely Ms. Kat here.

    I mean you would think that would be a more prevalent issue with women than straight guys who are simply comfortable with a tgirl using her cock.

    I love to kiss but that doesn't mean I'm privy to every pair of human lips on the planet. The same should be noted with regard to penis and ass as well, since the fem/weak man discussion has everyone forgetting about the muscle bound Deebo type guys who go back and forth to prison sleeping with guys sometimes forcefully, then going back home to their wives/bm's/girlfriends....

    So at end the day, girls and tgirls alike don't really know what they're dealing with a lot of the time when they date what the see as a "real man". And ti only make it worse when they slight guys by deeming them as weak or less of man because of the question of a sexual act that would be done exclusively with them in the first place.

    So to quote a wise person "Why be a Knight in shining armor when the average chick will leave you for a DL thug wearing tin foil?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by kittymatthews View Post
    I'm so done having this conversation

    You guys just dont understand my sexulaity at all so I'm not going to try to defend it anymore.


    i like guys who arent' obsessed with sucking cock and getting fucked.

    Not that I wanted to bring this up again but, Cosmic is a total bottom.


    And I simply dont understand how you can sit there and call a guy completley heterosexual when the only way he can get off is getting fucked int he ass.

    BUt whatever, you guys can validate that as hetero all you want, that's your choice.
    He can rightfully claim to be hetero because God/nature blessed all men with a fully functioning prostate gland.

    Hate to beat a dead horse but this stems back to male anatomy and nature could care less about what society decrees as gay or straight. The fact is TS were born male and that feeling you get when a stiff one hits your prostate gland aka "male g-spot" is the same feeling that all males have to potential of getting. Which is due to direct contact to nerve endings at an orgasms focal point while cutting out the penis as the middle man.

    So gay, str8 or trans we all have this organ and it's kind of stupid that someone long ago decided that only gays and ts woman are the only one with permission to utilize it. If that's the case then why do we all have one?

    Hell stimulating the prostate directly even helps to prevent prostate cancer. So fuck what anyone else thinks about me using mine.

    Fact is people with higher education and IQ's are more likely to try new things sexually then those who lack, so all I can say based on all these discussions is that something else most be going on with you.

    That said if I see ts as a woman then the penis is exempt from scrutiny as well. Any other psychological issues that said tranny may have are her problem and not mine.

    My part of the bargain was fulfilled from day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy24 View Post
    Fact is people with higher education and IQ's are more likely to try new things sexually then those who lack
    Do you have a link to that "fact?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittymatthews View Post
    I mean come on guys. Let's be honest, there is nothing feminine or hetero about a penis. Nothing.
    And herein lies the issue. You have associated the penis as purely a masculine organ, whereas guys who like ts cock do not. To us, it is not unlike the other parts of the woman that we like. Ass, tits, etc. The dick is seen as part of this combo, a part that genetic women do not have. When one stops looking at the penis as a male sex organ and more as an androgynous sexual accessory, liking cock is not liking men, it's just liking cock. If natural females were born with this organ, men would love it because it is a very sexual organ.

    I can only speak for myself in saying this, but I'd bet most guys into ts agree that the penis is simply a more intriguing organ than the vagina. Especially since men are visual creatures, and the vagina is a flat surface that doesn't do anything visually stimulating, whereas the penis does.



    You view your penis as the one masculine trait you have, and as you want to be as feminine as possible, you resent your penis for this reason. You also resent men who like the thing that you resent. There is a disconnect when you say that you are feminine but your sex organ is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy24 View Post
    He can rightfully claim to be hetero because God/nature blessed all men with a fully functioning prostate gland.

    Hate to beat a dead horse but this stems back to male anatomy and nature could care less about what society decrees as gay or straight. The fact is TS were born male and that feeling you get when a stiff one hits your prostate gland aka "male g-spot" is the same feeling that all males have to potential of getting. Which is due to direct contact to nerve endings at an orgasms focal point while cutting out the penis as the middle man.

    So gay, str8 or trans we all have this organ and it's kind of stupid that someone long ago decided that only gays and ts woman are the only one with permission to utilize it. If that's the case then why do we all have one?

    Hell stimulating the prostate directly even helps to prevent prostate cancer. So fuck what anyone else thinks about me using mine.

    Fact is people with higher education and IQ's are more likely to try new things sexually then those who lack, so all I can say based on all these discussions is that something else most be going on with you.

    That said if I see ts as a woman then the penis is exempt from scrutiny as well. Any other psychological issues that said tranny may have are her problem and not mine.

    My part of the bargain was fulfilled from day one.
    I think i agree with this assessment. If you define sex with a ts to be heterosexual sex, then any sexual act performed is by definition also heterosexual imo, just as it is technically heterosexual for a female to fuck a guy in the ass with a strap on.

    I myself do not consider sex with a ts to me heterosexual, based purely on the scientific definition of sex, which has to do with genetics, not gender roles. You are male, the ts is genetically male, so the sex is technically homosexual, although the gender roles are not the same are typical homosexual sex. This is just semantics, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onone View Post
    Do you have a link to that "fact?"
    There's several columns on this topic but here's one for starters.

    http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/...etter-Sex.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy24 View Post
    There's several columns on this topic but here's one for starters.

    http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/...etter-Sex.html
    You need to come up with a more cogent article than that to support your "fact." That article you posted is an ADMITTED generalization that women with high IQs give better sex, based upon a study detailing that women with higher emotional intelligence give better sex. So there was no direct study of anyone doing anything homosexual or a study of anyone's overall IQ. That article didn't even cite the "study" it used. The person who wrote that article used "generalization" incorrectly. That person did was make a completely unscientific assumption.

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