Black Transsexuals are Finally Breaking Through!!

[vidman]

Again....I was only speaking in terms of the industry. Even so, the industry can also be used as a catapult to do good things. I know a young lady who used the money from the industry to go to school. She graduated from Auburn University with a BS in Business. She also received her Masters in Finance FROM AUBURN. She now works for a private investment company here in Atlanta. She is a private portfolio manager and makes well into 6 figures a year. She has her own condo and BMW. So the industry is not all bad. It can be used as a spring board to achieve greater heights. But in terms of my original post that started this thread......I WAS ONLY SPEAKING IN TERMS OF BLACK T-GIRLS "BREAKING THROUGH" THE INDUSTRY. Look, when I first got into transsexuals 12 years ago, you couldn't go to the porn store and find a black t-girl video anywhere. It was all movies with white transsexuals and a few foreign transsexuals who looked mixed at best (Vo DeBalm). Now, when I go to the store, the shelves are inundated with Black Tranny Whackers and Madison's BigDickBitch Videos. All I'm saying is that sometimes progression, in any form, can be good. It depends on how you use it to your advantage.

Oh yeah, and Turbo, you're a cool dude but you never elaborate on anything. You always just say "good point." How bout you open up and let people know what's going on in your brain. I'd like to hear your views on issues of substance. Not just "good point." I haven't really read anything that you've posted that made for good debate or good conversation. Are you just here to cheerlead and look at the girls, or do you have issues that are pertinent that you would like to discuss. Don't get me wrong homie, I am definitely here to look at the girls too, but come on man, contribute to the forum a little. I know you have good information to share. Let's hear.

[godivatgirls]

Personally I don't appreciate this sort of energy. What I mean by that is the constant pursuit of recognition and validation by anyone outside of yourself. We also see black females do the same thing with patting themselves on the back for "finally" being able to get jobs and opportunities in "mainstream." I hope this same sort of energy will not become prevalent amongst black tgirls. Black tgirls always did their own thing like voguing, ball scene, unique language, and said "fuck everybody that can't get down with us, we don't need your recognition!"

I totally agree man... must stay unique.....

[kittymatthews]

You can do both. Tons of current and ex prostitutes own hair salons, day cares, and rental properties.

That's great and I totally respect that, but none of those things are 'breaking through". Hearing about a tgirl who does hair isn't uncommon.

vidman: but see, it shouldn't have to be that way. I shouldn't have to feel like I have to show my ass or have sex to make money to pay for school or catapult me to sucess. We should be able to have the same oppurtunities that other people have when it comes to getting a decent job. I spent all summer looking for a job and the only people that wanted to hire me were grooby. It shouldn't be that way. As a trans attracted man its probably hard for you to totally understand this, but when you're told every day that all you're worth is some ass... come on. This may not be a duanting idea for you, but imagine if the only way you could make money was to constantly model for porn sites and turn tricks. Even in the small time i've worked on tgirlcams, i've realized that it takes a lot of work to model and it's sorta exhausting. lol.

Transsesexual breaking through SHOULD be them breaking through in a significant way and gaining notoriety without having to sell their ass.


I dont want to hijack your thread, i just can't help but feel a little sad that this is the best that transsexual woman can do.That this is breaking out into the industry. That being a porn star somehow makes you something.

[Ms Remy M]

That's great and I totally respect that, but none of those things are 'breaking through". Hearing about a tgirl who does hair isn't uncommon.

vidman: but see, it shouldn't have to be that way. I shouldn't have to feel like I have to show my ass or have sex to make money to pay for school or catapult me to sucess. We should be able to have the same oppurtunities that other people have when it comes to getting a decent job. I spent all summer looking for a job and the only people that wanted to hire me were grooby. It shouldn't be that way. As a trans attracted man its probably hard for you to totally understand this, but when you're told every day that all you're worth is some ass... come on. This may not be a duanting idea for you, but imagine if the only way you could make money was to constantly model for porn sites and turn tricks. Even in the small time i've worked on tgirlcams, i've realized that it takes a lot of work to model and it's sorta exhausting. lol.

Transsesexual breaking through SHOULD be them breaking through in a significant way and gaining notoriety without having to sell their ass.


I dont want to hijack your thread, i just can't help but feel a little sad that this is the best that transsexual woman can do.That this is breaking out into the industry. That being a porn star somehow makes you something.

Everybody has an opinion. This is a "breakthrough" for each girl appearing on a dvd cover, and congratulations to all the performers appearing on the dvds as well. Isn't this at least a little bit similar to the Five Heartbeats situation?

That being a porn star somehow makes you something.

Everybody is "somebody" regardless of their chosen profession. Be they a porn star, an entreprenuer, a stay at home mom/dad, a student, whatever, we are all somebody. Sure we have had a black President, and one day we'll have a black tgirl President too Right now, these beautiful and talented ladies have their dvd covers along with a world of salivating fans, but also so much more. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't care for the over-sensationalism of people that modern media portrays. I don't keep up with celebs lives or think you should be famous for having 15mins of attention. We do need more writers, medical professionals, inventors, etc. Still, "Onone" point "You can do both. Tons of current and ex prostitutes own hair salons, day cares, and rental properties." is very valid. We take the steps we can in life though, and it takes a special person to look down on a black tgirl for using the opportunity she has to spring board to something else, and the saddest part is other trans looking down on her peers. At the end of the day, c'est la vie. Do you and what makes you happy, let your goals and ambitions drive you to set an example.


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[kittymatthews]

Dont get me wrong, i am not judging these girls at all. Not at all. What i'm looking at is more the situation and reality of the sort of world we live in. I dont think it's fair for any group to be marginalized and only recognized for the sex they can offer. I dont look down on these girls at all. i wouldn't be here if I did. Alls I'm saying is that we should really be trying to do other things instead of settle for porn.

Perhaps itsin the industry I"m trying to get into, but I just dont see how i would be able to do porn and still pursue a carrer in film. Especially witht he companies i want to work for. And we all know the sex industry is more lucrative than a lot of other jobs.

i dunno, i guess it's just like... i have some friends and they have so much promise and so many things going for them, but they've settled for porn or prostitution and it's at the point where they think this is all they can do with their lives. I dunno, i just think its sad that often we're lead to feel like this is our only option. That's all.


And also, i'd like to add that as much as I love porn I sometimes feel it hurts more than helps. By continuing to perpetuate this cycle of
young girl starts transition
young girl needs money
young girl approached by talent scout
young girl is entered into the sex industry
young girl either stays or gets out.
can't possibly be helpful to furthering transgendered equality and recognition.

if every man who purchased a transsexual porn DVD gave a tgirl a non sexual no exploitive job, the world would be a lot different for trans women.

[Ms Remy M]

I hear what you are saying, and I agree, and appreciate the clarification.

Of course, some without the opportunities we offer would be worse off. I'm glad I'm here offering the girls safe, legal money to make in a comfortable environment where they aren't forced to do anything they don't want to do, just to make some money to pay bills or whatever. With clients, you never truly know if you'll make it out alive, and that's really scary. How many bodies have they found now from this serial killer in ny/nj, 10?


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[kittymatthews]

exactally. We shouldn't be doing this to ourselves and we shouldn't feel like we HAVE to do it to ourselves.

And dont get me wrong, i'm all about capitalizing on men's fetishes. lol.

[onone]

That's great and I totally respect that, but none of those things are 'breaking through". Hearing about a tgirl who does hair isn't uncommon.


Transsesexual breaking through SHOULD be them breaking through in a significant way and gaining notoriety without having to sell their ass.

Oh, most people aren't trying to be pioneers with how they get money, most people just want the money. It seems like you'd be more satisfied being the first transgendered elected official making $90,000 per year rather than being an entrepreneur that simply meets the needs of a given community making $200,000 per. I had a friend in High School that first introduced me to that concept. He admitted to rather being employed by a major pharmaceutical company than just simply owning his own business. It wasn't about the "stability" of the pharm company, but rather the "prestige" it would afford him whenever he told people what he did for a living. There's a bit of validation there that some people need, and others can do without. The "merchant class" historically is well respect and very powerful, but today it seems like the idea of the "professional" has taken over in the minds of some.

[kittymatthews]

Wrong.

I'd honestly be more comfortable telling someone i worked at McDonalds than saying i was a porn star. lol. But that's just me. to me it's not about money.

See, as a trans attracted man you dont understand the situations we're put into. Doing porn does offer stability. However, there are plenty of people in this world who can find stable jobs without having to do pornography or turn tricks. However, with transsexuals, often times this is one of our only options for stable employment. The world shouldn't be like that

it's not about being recognized for greatneess, but rather, being able to work a job that doesn't demand sexual exploitation.

Do you understand where I'm coming from? it is very hard being hired as a transgendered person. Jobs that highlight or exploit our gender are often with sexual undertones. And i'm not judging the industry at all, but rather, the situation it creates for transgendered women. I don't look down on the industry at all. I just wish that getting regonition as a trans woman would be for something more that porn or turning tricks. Something that other young trans girls can look up to and say "wow, i want to do that".


Do you get that?

And being the top porn star (and again, i'm not judging them) only encourages tgirls do perpetuation the hypersexualized sterotype of transsexual women. And generally, people aren't going to be willing to recognize sex workers as people deserving of rights.

[onone]

You're a hypocrite. Normally that may not hurt a person financially, but in your case your hypocrisy places a limitation on how successful you will allow yourself to become in the sex industry. You currently work in the sex industry. You do cam shows right? Yet you want to be a role model for other transgendered people. The fact is, if you become really big in that lane one day, those cam shows of you jacking off and showing your booty hole are going to surface. You are already part of the sex industry PUBLICLY. There are prostitutes that have done all kinds of shit for boat loads of money that during the process never was photographed, recorded on video, or arrested. So these current or ex prostitutes can at least deny their involvement in the sex industry if they one day want to be a hypocritical about it like "I never had to sell my body to own all of these businesses I own." Yeah okay... But I know how this goes, you can always portray yourself as being an "exploited victim," say that you have since found Jesus or something like that...