ladies: if u have a drug problem please seek help

[vidman]

Ugh. Do I really need to?

" Again, it has nothing to do with your "neighborhood," but everything to do what was pounded into your head from a very young age, hence family (immediate or extended) and friends."

Who are you tell me that my ideals when it comes to drugs have nothing to do with my neighborhood? And HOW would you know that if you dont know me?

Doing it again.

I was referring to the general terms of "good" vs "bad" neighborhoods and how they influence substance abuse. I wasn't referring to your personal life. Now, if you define a "good" or "bad" neighborhood to be something based on your life experiences, then that's another story.

[vidman]

And there in lies the major flaw in your argument, which brings me back to my initial response to you. I'm speaking from personal experience, not making overgeneralizations.

So the very foundation of your argument/disagreence is FLAWED.

Thus making this a POINTLESS argument.

You're refuting points that were NOT made.

No, the foundation of my argument is not flawed if my argument is based on your "one liner." Your points were never clearly made until we started having this discussion. I'm merely getting out of you that which should have been stated immeidately after you made that "one liner."

The foundation of my argument stands....Just because a person comes from a bad neighborhood does not pre-dispose him to substance addiction any more than the person from the good neighborhood.

[kittymatthews]

aye

ok, i'm done.


This is lame.

This thread isn't about building an argument and having a debate. It's about talking about the death of a 27 year old and preventing it with the trans community.

Why you'd think that's grounds for debate is beyond me. People like you just like to argue/debate. Waste of time.

[vidman]

aye

ok, i'm done.


This is lame.

This thread isn't about building an argument and having a debate. It's about talking about the death of a 27 year old and preventing it with the trans community.

Why you'd think that's grounds for debate is beyond me. People like you just like to argue/debate. Waste of time.

Listen Kitty, this is a forum. This is a place where people discuss different topics. Some topics are controversial and some aren't. If you don't like the dynamic of this Forum, then go somewhere else! I have a right to comment when and whatever I choose to comment about, just as you do. The bigger issue here is that you don't want people to disagree with you or challenge what comes from your mouth, as if you have all the answers.

You're exactly right about one thing though, this thread is about the death of Amy and how to prevent, not only trans, but people, in general, of drug abuse which could lead to death. However, the first thing we must do is extinguish misleading falsehoods and myths about drug abuse and it's origins, for example, the quirky idea that living in a good neighborhood somehow minimizes your chances of being a victim of drug abuse/addiction.

[kittymatthews]

except the PROBLEM is that the points you're making have nothing to do with what i'm saying

Why would you debate a personal experience?

SEems like a waste of time. Which is ultimately YOUR issue not mine. I know that people disagree and that's fine, but you will not debate, refute or argue over my personal life experience, that's just a waste of time.

[kittymatthews]

i mean it's like saying

"i went to the store and got some bread" and then comming back with

"not all stores have bread. I dont think you got bread from the store because most stores dont have bread. So the reason you got bread wasn't because you went to the store but because you wanted bread"



Does anyone besides vidman see that he's reading into my one comment about my upbringing way too much?

I mean comment on whatever you will, but dont come for me and reute my personal experience for the sake of yoru agrument. You could have made the argument that good neighborhoods doesn't mean less drug use without involving me.

[GroobySteven]

Does anyone besides vidman see that he's reading into my one comment about my upbringing way too much?

Yes I do and think both your arguments are being rather pedantic and de-railed a thread.
He started it by just a stupid response to your comment but you continued. Can you both please stop or take it to your own forum elsewhere.

[raheme]

IM just happy i was raised in a good neighborhood.

What the heck happened in here?

[vidman]

What the heck happened in here?

Aww damn Raheme, why did you edit your original post? Damn you! LOL!!!!

What happened to the "folly" post just a second ago? LMAO!

Oh, I see why you edited the post Raheme. I feel ya man.
I'll pull my comment so that your "no drama" comment won't be seen.

[CosmicTraveler]

What the heck happened in here?

It's like when you come back from the store and find that the kids rode the dog through the house while spray painting as they galloped.

Truthfully though, anyone could've taken Kitty's comment that way. Things could've been made much less personal though.