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[Ms Remy M]

I mean....y'all calling guys faggots is a contradiction, really. So I don't understand why y'all even call guys faggots for doing the same thing you're doing...being a male engaging in sex with another male. The dress up thing is cool and whatnot, but don't forget who you really are, especially to the point where you start condemning guys for doing what you're doing.

Sounds like you may have some deep seeded problems toward trans women, in that you feel trans women are 'males' and just 'dressing up'. A trans woman having sex with a man is not the same as a man having sex with a man. Anal sex in and of itself is not homosexual, it becomes so when done man on man.

[Ms Remy M]

In my experiences, when I do show a girl respect, she still disrespects me in the utmost way. Perfect example....the situation I just dealt with from a certain girl in DC (you know who). I don't think it matters with you girls Amber. You all are so jaded by the industry until your sense of normal communication and relationships is skewed. You girls think that all men are the guys that call your phone looking to P4P. I can only speak for myself and my experiences. I can honestly say that I have NEVER disrespected a woman in my life! There is not one thread on here with me dogging or disrespecting a single woman. Even those threads where a girl is snapping on me, I never retaliated with disrespect.

I beg to differ, but I'm passed it so moving on...

[Ms Remy M]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!! It's not like transsexuals were born biological women. As far as society sees it, they are men in dress-up. So for them to call us fags is baseless considering they are the same. Good point Finance.

Uh, case in point of utter disrespect...

[Financier]

Sounds like you may have some deep seeded problems toward trans women, in that you feel trans women are 'males' and just 'dressing up'. A trans woman having sex with a man is not the same as a man having sex with a man. Anal sex in and of itself is not homosexual, it becomes so when done man on man.

I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

[tsamberskyi]

I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

wow...this is the reason right there why so many girls (not that im one of them) dont like getting involved with "transsexual admirers".we want someone whos going to accept us as a woman regardless of whats between our legs, not an extension of your homosexual impulses/urges.

[Financier]

wow...this is the reason right there why so many girls (not that im one of them) dont like getting involved with "transsexual admirers".we want someone whos going to accept us as a woman regardless of whats between our legs, not an extension of your homosexual impulses/urges.

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

So...you'd rather me just close my eyes to who/what you really are and live my life in denial? You'd rather me call myself straight instead of bisexual or gay? I don't know where y'all are getting this stuff from, but the point my words have been nothing but me stating that I'm not gonna lie to myself. In fact, you CAN'T lie to yourself because subconsciously, you know the truth. If you have a problem with me not lying to myself, then your problem isn't with me....you have an internal issue of your own that you need to work on.

[tsamberskyi]

I understand clearly but what you don't understand is that regardless of what amount of "respect" is given that's not gonna give the average escort the red carpet treatment regarding relationships. You fight the disparaging names being called but you can't deny the justifications for them stating the matter. And not knowing if his lovely escort companion has a "hair bump or a cold soar" could change his life for the remainder....

Your opinion is a result of self preservation so only you and TS women of your profession will co-sign that evasive "Pretty Woman" fetish you all tend to dream upon.

Oh and for a tranny to call a man a fag for embracing tranny cock. It can not be proven w/o his co-contributor. So you might wanna use another example to plead your case moving forward.

i have no problem with some guys not preferring to date girls in the adult industry.i have my own preferences as well, like i would never get involved with someone in the entertainment industry or aspiring to do so.
what i do have a problem with tho it seems that you guys forget that we are people too.ive said it time and time again that just because im an escort i dont cease to be human and have the same desires that drive us all.i know i just want to be loved, accepted and cared for like everyone else.
i also have a problem with men calling woman in the industry hoes,bitches and etc. using words like that to describe someone is a way to objectify and dehumanize them.again we (escorts and porn actresses) are people too.i recently had a convo with a fellow forum member who said we shouldnt break people down to nouns,instead of pronouns.
also please dont pretend to know my motivations,dreams or aspirations.i in no way have ever subscribed to that pretty woman bullshit way of thinking that a man is going to come in and save me.ive had many guys offer and express a desire to take care of me but i know everything isnt what it seems and comes at a price.i for one am not willing to sacrifice my freedom so some dude can take care of me and run my life.yall can keep that lol.

[tsamberskyi]

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

So...you'd rather me just close my eyes to who/what you really are and live my life in denial? You'd rather me call myself straight instead of bisexual or gay? I don't know where y'all are getting this stuff from, but the point my words have been nothing but me stating that I'm not gonna lie to myself. In fact, you CAN'T lie to yourself because subconsciously, you know the truth. If you have a problem with me not lying to myself, then your problem isn't with me....you have an internal issue of your own that you need to work on.

that whole "scientific/physiological" argument doesnt work.if you bother to do any actual research on transsexual woman than you would know that scientist have actually found biological and psychological differences in transsexual people.
your truth isnt the truth hun.just because you decree something doesnt make it so.
to be honest i dont care what guys call themselves.ive dated/talked to them all...straight,bi,gay whatever lol.my only thing is if you cant see, respect and treat me as a woman we have nothing to talk about.

[Ms Remy M]

I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

Hey, you are fine labeling yourself gay congrats to you and welcome to the LGBT community, but it isn't your place to label others. I think you have cross dressers (men who dress up in womens clothes) confused with transsexuals (who live their lives as women) there is a huge difference. We don't think, act, or live our lives like men. There are countries that already identify transsexuals as a third sex because the scientific evidence points towards such.

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

So...you'd rather me just close my eyes to who/what you really are and live my life in denial? You'd rather me call myself straight instead of bisexual or gay? I don't know where y'all are getting this stuff from, but the point my words have been nothing but me stating that I'm not gonna lie to myself. In fact, you CAN'T lie to yourself because subconsciously, you know the truth. If you have a problem with me not lying to myself, then your problem isn't with me....you have an internal issue of your own that you need to work on.

We are women through and through, you just aren't capable of accepting that. So, since you don't lie, if your friends were to ask about your porn collection would you tell them you watch gay/trans porn? Do you openly identify to the real world around you as gay or is this just the gospel of the anonymous 'Financier'?

[GroobySteven]

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

There is plenty of scientific/biological theories to prove otherwise. You don't have the "scientific/physiological truth", it's just a theory you're choosing to go with, I choose to go with another.

All of this is moot. This is a website that mainly featured transgendered women. It's not open for debate, the whole "Am I gay?", "Am I bi" or "is a tgirl a real girl" has been done to death. You're entitled to your opinions but I don't want to hear it on this forum, you can take it elsewhere if you can't get with the ethos of this forum and the girls on this site.