Now this is TROLLING!

[Ms Remy M]

Your entire argument seems to be coming from here.


My argument is based on the fact that these women have to consent to everything that happens to them. This isn't a pack of rapists, unless there's information you have that you're withholding... And based on the things you say, I'm sure that's not the case. I'm sure Seanchai is very aware of the practices the company dwells in because he's so deep inside their operation. That's why he's been able to provide so much information to all of us about everything and not just speculate. Because he sits in on their interviews and talks with the girls before and after. And you know this, because you're there. You're there the entire time and you know all of it. All of this is true.

And you being ' nice enough not to put me on blast ' doesn't really do you much good. Since as I said you don't know me. Shit, you know about two or three lines of information more than anyone else around here. Funny how when you don't have a point you just repeat the lines you can't prove while moving toward personal attacks. You're so cute when you do that.

You aren't basing anything on fact, as you aren't on the set to know what they are consenting to either. There isn't a personal attack at all, stating your humanity is not an attack but a positive.

[t3h EMMA]

You know me weighing in was an inevitabilty, anywho...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1kQ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2goA6c9lhOw


I'm speechless.... Does this really go on? If so what is the female pornstar suicide rate...

Sorry, OP, but I laughed my bleedin' ass off. These people (most, if not all, of the models included) clearly understand what the lulz.

Yea, degrading women is very fucking hilarious #loser

No, but satire is, another thing those who have to do with GG also understand. It obviously does no more than poke fun at those who degrade women, as opposed to doing such a thing themselves.

Am I wrong for laughing at a clown who takes a pie in the face?

Btw, this is for the porn site Ghetto Gaggers. Which deals exclusively in content like this. Meaning they know full well what they're getting into when they go in. That is, if they're smart enough to do their research. And if they aren't it's still funny. If you were stupid enough to let this happen to you I'd laugh at you as well. So maybe you get off that high horse.

Degrading women doesn't matter. Degrading PEOPLE is what's funny. You sexist twat.

Exactly, I'd find it even worse if we left a group out.

you're wrong on 2 parts here:

1) just because YOU feel the moral obligation to do such does not mean EVERYONE has to feel, think or live the same way...

2) the r. kelly argument is TOTALLY flawed...there is a huge difference between someone using their celebrity, influence, power, etc to get a young, impressionable individual that may idolize them to do something versus a GROWN ASS person (some of these girls even have kids) that can think and make choices/decisions for themselves to do the same thing...by your logic, jerry sandusky could have pulled the same thing with the 22 year old quarterback (who can DECIDE FOR HIMSELF whether he wants a dick in his ass) that he did with the 8 year old child he was with in the shower...

and again, though you may think/feel/believe that your 'vanilla' brand of porn is palatable, to much of society it is still degrading and exploitation...and you, an individual who makes money off of these girls, because some may do it because they're in a financial bind (as i believe was the case in you, vidman and amber's little tiff a few weeks ago), are exploiting them as well...just because you aren't slapping or choking them doesn't make it any different...this isn't karate...there aren't varying degrees of exploitation...but im sure you will continue to shoot the pictures & video and collect a check from it...

and again, NO ONE IS MAKING THEM DO IT...just like amber said, if she's not cool with it, its doesn't happen...if they don't like what's going on, they can always leave...nobody has them trapped in a dungeon with no way out...

not to mention that, i have discussed this very topic with jada fire and she said, they ask you in the very beginning what you will and won't do...what you are and aren't comfortable with them doing to you...and note the edits in the videos where the girls might be covered in puke, but then next frame they've wiped off, freshened up (for lack of a better phrase), etc...at any point in time, they could be like, 'you know what, fuck this..im gone'...

ps...i don't give a slap happy fuck if a chick does porn, escorts or shits on a stick to get paid...i dont look down on her at all...i just don't want to hear that 'this is all i can do', 'im playing the cards i was dealt' shit...there are many transgender & genetic women who, instead of selling themselves, work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet...some have gone back to school, and gotten a degree or learned a trade and now work in corporate america, academia, hospitals, salons, etc...perfect example...angel vixen...watch the beginning or her scene in the latest black shemale idol...see what the fuck she's doing..

THIS. It reminds me of a lot of the blacks around me who flip a shit because I was recently collared by an older white man. They often compare us to the era of slavery...except the difference is that I consented, I'm not treated like furniture, and I have full permission to say "Hey, [such and such] isn't working." Yea, I have it reeeeaall hard. This guy loves the fuck out of me, so fuck your mothers.

And Jada Fire is a really good reference to make. I've seen a lot of her roles, both dominant and submissive.

Wow, my day was going really shitty until I read these five pages of comments. You mofo's are too funny. Shit's not that deep...

It fucking porn, who cares???????????????????????????????????????

So short, yet so completely right. My hat's off to you.

...You keep saying I don't know you, but I'm just nice enough not to put you on blast.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDGaxVV0h4[/ame]

[CosmicTraveler]

You aren't basing anything on fact, as you aren't on the set to know what they are consenting to either. There isn't a personal attack at all, stating your humanity is not an attack but a positive.

If they weren't consenting, the content wouldn't get made or released. That much is basic knowledge. Or should be. Maybe I'm the crazy one thinking sense is common. You people probably take Bangbus seriously too don't you?

You can try to soften it if you like, but saying something like " I'm being nice enough not to put you on blast " isn't hinting toward anything positive. So just stop.

[GroobySteven]

If they weren't consenting, the content wouldn't get made or released. That much is basic knowledge. Or should be. Maybe I'm the crazy one thinking sense is common. You people probably take Bangbus seriously too don't you?

You can try to soften it if you like, but saying something like " I'm being nice enough not to put you on blast " isn't hinting toward anything positive. So just stop.

Where do you make this up from? If they've signed a release (consented to the shoot) and been paid then the company has the rights to release it, they MAY not have even said that was part of the release, there are plenty of opportunities in any shoot to show bloopers or outtakes and a typical model release would cover that.

The models are consenting to the shoot, that is all. You're no insider, talk about talking out of your arse, another handbag waver.

[CosmicTraveler]

Where do you make this up from? If they've signed a release (consented to the shoot) and been paid then the company has the rights to release it, they MAY not have even said that was part of the release, there are plenty of opportunities in any shoot to show bloopers or outtakes and a typical model release would cover that.

The models are consenting to the shoot, that is all. You're no insider, talk about talking out of your arse, another handbag waver.

So essentially what you're saying is... They'd still have to sign a form, saying they were of sound mind and are consenting adults when all of this happens...

Which was pretty much what I was getting at from the start.

Fact of the matter is, they consent, because they are adults who are able to make their own decisions. And if the results of those decisions are as seen on that video I'm going to laugh. And no amount of whining on your part is going to change that.

[GroobySteven]

Fact of the matter is, they consent, because they are adults who are able to make their own decisions. And if the results of those decisions are as seen on that video I'm going to laugh. And no amount of whining on your part is going to change that.

I never disputed that they consented to making or appearing in a video, I called out the manner which it was done, the underlying issues with why they think it's ok to make videos like this and the fact that lower lifeforms can find it amusing, to degrade and humiliate people in this way.

You've said your peice, now you need to either move on or take a break to chill out and come back to this forum at a date when you can accept it for what it's for and get with that.

[tsamberskyi]

..... the fact that lower lifeforms can find it amusing, to degrade and humiliate people in this way.

very much this....

[CosmicTraveler]

I never disputed that they consented to making or appearing in a video, I called out the manner which it was done, the underlying issues with why they think it's ok to make videos like this and the fact that lower lifeforms can find it amusing, to degrade and humiliate people in this way.

You've said your peice, now you need to either move on or take a break to chill out and come back to this forum at a date when you can accept it for what it's for and get with that.

If you feel a need to attack me for what I find entertaining, I feel a need to defend myself. It's nothing short of hilarious how you can sit there exploiting people yourself and still try to call other people out on doing it.

I don't care what you own or how much money you have, don't think you can talk to me as you please. Internet or not, I'll respond accordingly.

[CosmicTraveler]

very much this....

Be silent, judgmental prostitute.

[SHAUN]

Hey, don't you just hate the way those D-list actors and actesses are routinely and repeatedly killed, tortured , raped, mutilated, zombified, blown to bits etc etc in all those films at the cinema and on TV???

I mean, I k n o w they all sign forms of consent, and I k n o w they get paid to appear in those films, and I k n o w it's just acting..... but dontcha just hate seeing them ritually humiliated and degraded like that????

I think the Producers and Directors of these films - whether they're blockbusters or straight-to-dvd, should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves!...

And, ANYBODY who enjoys films that show death and mutilation and murder and mayhem needs to take a good long hard look at themselves!

Maybe, if they do that, they can be a whining, holier-than-thou, two-faced dumbass, liberal moron just like meeeeeeeeee... YAY!

blue eyed devil