Quote Originally Posted by thepiedpiper View Post
Ok I'll try to keep this short as I'm not sure you're really getting the point here. I might even capitalise words as this seems to be something you enjoy but there are no guarantees.

Firstly I have not refused to accept the points you made or have I denied the horrors that go on in some majority Muslim countries. The only point I have tried to make and one which, I feel is important is this is not EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM. The reason I bring this up as I have already stated is because the guy in the first video most of the time refers to Islam and Muslims as a whole - as one entity eluding to all people who consider themselves Muslim. This is exactly what the issue is that I am raising.

People throughout history seem to have the uncanny ability to firstly stereotype before anything else.

All of the comments you have made in your last post are correct but the point I have tried to make is that you should not blanket these activities to apply to EVERY MUSLIM on the fucking planet. This type of stereotyping creates a never ending vicious cycle of hate. We need to acknowledge that only some mis-interpret religious scripture to put a stop to their activities. If you paint a picture that seems to refer to every single person of a religious group then the response your likely to get is that all those people hate you. Acknowledge that it is not everyone and pinpoint who it is then you can work together to stop it.

This is the only point I have tried to illustrate here.

Oh and if the fight comes to my door.. scratch that if anyone comes to my door Muslim or not starting shit then I will punch them in the fucking face.
Great post and I agree. I don't think every single Muslim is complacent in the things mentioned in the video and I don't think the video maker intended that, it's clear that we're not dealing in absolutes but he is spot on, on a lot of points. As a religion (and as their culture is so deeply routed in their religion) they are intolerant and have no respect for any other religions, cultures or people. There are some good Muslim groups in the UK - but also many that seek to take advantage of the lenient laws and how we generally afford the respect to any religious groups. It's getting tiring. They've bitched and moaned and over-reacted for far too long. Salman Rushdie, Danish comics, etc. it's tiring and people have had enough.
You rarely hear of Muslim's defending what these zealots are attacking, many seem complacent if not actively supporting them.

It's time Muslims and Islam faced the fact that they are the same as any other religion or group of people in this country and if they want to be treat of equals then they need to afford the same to everyone else, which includes the freedom to make a joke - or criticize their God or religion - as we would with any others.