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    Feedback & Constructive Criticism

    I welcome all feedback and constructive criticism and will answer it either directly or in the forum but I'm not going to leave up a thread which is clearly just allowing some people to bitch and cause distruptions without any constructiveness.

    To the Op (JM? I think) - points taken and I'll forward that to the photographers. It's not always down to the photographers but to the models a lot and often you won't see girls who don't play well, being invited back. Companies like Evil Angel have a budget where they can hire a girl for most of the day and get more out of them (but produce 10-15 scenes a year). They also rarely hire a model that we haven't worked with first thererfore taking out the risk of seeing how a model actually is on camera. Often a model's first shoot lacks confidence on her part and it's only because of THIS site the photographers committments to finding new models that there is even a BTG scene on the internet at all.

    TheGreat1 - Omar is a new shooter and he's finding awesome models and has really nice photography skills. He's getting a new camera this month and we're working with him to encourage him to become the best he can be. He's eager, enthusiastic, has skills and the girls like working with him. We don't have the budgets or the ability to be able to train people so they need to learn on the job. Practically every producer of worth we have started this way. You can find producers that are technically super competent to begin with but they often lack the heat and personality we look for.

    Vidman - you're getting tiring again. It's going to be time for you to take a break if you're going to continue to misbehave.

    To anyone I missed. Please add constructive feedback - not "XXXX sucks". Be polite and let us know what lacks in someone's videos, what you'd like to see more or less of and we will try to accomodate or change, if it's in the interest of the majority. We've adjusted and adapted this site over the years and will continue to do so, so we can continue to bring new models to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    TheGreat1 - Omar is a new shooter and he's finding awesome models and has really nice photography skills. He's getting a new camera this month and we're working with him to encourage him to become the best he can be. He's eager, enthusiastic, has skills and the girls like working with him. We don't have the budgets or the ability to be able to train people so they need to learn on the job. Practically every producer of worth we have started this way. You can find producers that are technically super competent to begin with but they often lack the heat and personality we look for..
    Didnt mean to come off as 'this dude sucks' lol. Not my intentions at all. And yes, i know he's new and i know (just know lol) a few of the girls he's shot with and they all said he was a cool dude. And yeah, im sure his work will improve. I was just putting some stuff out there for consideration, that's all. Not trying to start a witch hunt lol. If he's interested, i know a few other girls he might be able to convince to do some shooting if he hasnt spoken to them already.

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    Constructive feedback. I want a real video. Too many initial videos are straight garbage. You may take offense to that but I really hate wasting my time downloading a vid that looks like I could have watched it on YouTube. This is my favorite site of every site I DL from but things seem to be going downhill. I want a real scene like you'd see on smy or ts playground or Mariana's not a tease. It just seems like filler not a quality vid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwt22 View Post
    Constructive feedback. I want a real video. Too many initial videos are straight garbage. You may take offense to that but I really hate wasting my time downloading a vid that looks like I could have watched it on YouTube. This is my favorite site of every site I DL from but things seem to be going downhill. I want a real scene like you'd see on smy or other sites not a tease. It just seems like filler not a quality vid.
    That's just kind of pointless feedback. You say their "garbage" which is your opinion (incorrect in my opinion) but you don't say what's wrong? We don't use any filler and their is no tease. Each video is a complete scene. Why is it going downhill in your opinion? What exactly is wrong with the video - or rather, what videos are right?

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    For instance nia lees vids. Majority of her vids are nothing but her laying on her back and jerking off. Secondly The clothing. Where are the sexy outfits like when Dominique wore lace or Sabrina Suzuki wearing that all leopard skin suit or her schoolgirl outfit. Thirdly, the scenes are boring. Not all of them are but most. I see a lot of sites stepping it up but when I visit here it just seems like more of the same ol. Maybe it's not getting worse, and just that everyone else is getting better. I don't mean any of these as insults btw, just giving my honest opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwt22 View Post
    For instance nia lees vids. Majority of her vids are nothing but her laying on her back and jerking off. Secondly The clothing. Where are the sexy outfits like when Dominique wore lace or Sabrina Suzuki wearing that all leopard skin suit or her schoolgirl outfit. Thirdly, the scenes are boring. Not all of them are but most. I see a lot of sites stepping it up but when I visit here it just seems like more of the same ol. Maybe it's not getting worse, and just that everyone else is getting better. I don't mean any of these as insults btw, just giving my honest opinion.
    You say you don't mean this has an insult ... but the second part is pretty insulting. This sites changed massively and I don't see anyone in our niche "stepping it up" more than we have but I won't harp on with the sales pitch. Let me reword this into constructive criticism for you.

    "I don't like the Nia Lee's videos. Majority of her vids are nothing but her laying on her back and jerking off, can we get more ____________________.
    Secondly The clothing can we get more outfits like when Dominique wore lace or Sabrina Suzuki wearing that all leopard skin suit or her schoolgirl outfit.
    Thirdly can we have the more scenes where this, that and the other happens (replace with what you want rather than just moaning).
    This is the sort of thing that I'd like to see happen on the site."

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    You say you don't mean this has an insult ... but the second part is pretty insulting. This sites changed massively and I don't see anyone in our niche "stepping it up" more than we have but I won't harp on with the sales pitch. Let me reword this into constructive criticism for you.

    "I don't like the Nia Lee's videos. Majority of her vids are nothing but her laying on her back and jerking off, can we get more ____________________.
    Secondly The clothing can we get more outfits like when Dominique wore lace or Sabrina Suzuki wearing that all leopard skin suit or her schoolgirl outfit.
    Thirdly can we have the more scenes where this, that and the other happens (replace with what you want rather than just moaning).
    This is the sort of thing that I'd like to see happen on the site."
    LOL where have you read that constructive criticism is supposed to be labeled with pretty words? Anyways...in regards to what the models do in the vids, "Can we get" more of them on a counter top, on a table, bent over, walking around naked, oiled up, on the stairs, in a pool, sexy outfits, shower scene, exercising, etc.......The list is infinite. In regards to other sites, some people that make really good vids to me are sites like, tsplayground, andreanobilis, and bigdickbitch. Their scenes come together really well, and it be nice to see similar vids on here.

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    My kinda outfit lol
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    in defense of seanchai, the outfits are out of his control...the photogs need to tell the models that the regular 'bra and panty' combination isnt gonna work...they need OUTFITS...not like they have to spend a gang of money on them, just something sexy...

    now in defense of wert, i DO think most of the hardcore scenes are kinda of ho-hum...i've seen some of the girls in their private stash of videos and they're going HARD...but they get on btg and wanna be cute...again, the photogs need to demand more from BOTH male and female performers...like sasha strokes says, 'this ain't no beauty competition, its PORN' lol...

    as far as the content of the solo scenes, yeah there needs to be more creativity because its a solo scene...the basic 'her sitting there stroking' gets dull because solo scenes don't offer a whole lot so to make up for it, get creative...shower scenes, pool scenes, outside scenes, play with the lighting, etc...have the girls actually talk (silent movies went out a LONG time ago lol)...

    all in all, i don't have a problem with the site, i just believe with the level of talent (the models) and the photogs you have (remy, kali, buddy woods), the videos can be so much better (not saying they aren't good now)...and yes, i understand you don't have the backing of a SUPER company, but what you lack in big budget can be made up for with creativity...hell, i bet if you had a video with the model cumming in a different position, like doggy style, it'd get a good review because honestly, that's some of the sexiest shit in the world...the viewer can imagine hitting the model from the back while she's cumming...that's the best shit in the world right there lol

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    Seanchai, I respect you for opportunities you have presented to me in the past and for maintaining this forum and website. I have a habit of being too blunt at time, especially when the liquor is flowing.

    But with that said, I can't stand by and let anyone disrespect me or call me out, especially when they have a history of being a smart mouth. And because of my reaction I apologize to you for my comments that ultimately lead to the deletion of my earlier thread.

    If you ever are in Chicago, i'll take you out for dinner and drinks with some hot local cool t-girls on me.

    Peace, love and soul!!!!!!!!!

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