Feedback & Constructive Criticism

[thegreat1]

They do - Buddy is probably the best at this but often a traveling girl needs to be shot within days. A few phone calls doens't break down the barrier of getting naked, erect and spreading your ass in front of a camera. Our current crop of shooters all have good rapports with the models but as you know, many of the girls aren't the easiest communicators or the most relaxed people at the best of times.

I guess that's why his vids always seem more intimate. That and his video style.

PS. Im gonna pm you with an idea

[thepiedpiper]

As already mentioned earlier in the thread my only feed back would be the camera quality of Omars video shoots. The video output is drastically different to the rest of the photographers. There have been on occasions inconsistency with Philly Robs video output also which, on occasion has come back at what I see as significantly lower quality than the other photographers video in terms of video resolution (not the actual content)

Out of curiosity are the videos edited by the photographers? Before your uploader puts the videos up each week are the videos finally encoded all with the same resolution settings and quality (where camera permits)?

I assume each photographer is working freelance in respect of equipment in this case and as a business Grooby isn't involved with the equipment side of things. Using Omar as an example the photographs taken are of a high quality and seem to be consistent with other photographers in terms of image quality but then the video is of a lesser quality. I can only assume based on this that separate cameras are used for each part of the shoot. I know a lot of the time this will be due to photo's being taken whilst the camera rolls attached to a tripod to save time but it might be worth noting that a lot of mid range DSLR cameras that are probably being used on shoots have pretty respectable video recording facilities with good lens quality. I'm guessing the price you might pay to buy a half decent video camera could be split down the middle to buy 2 good DSLR cameras to still enable dual shooting.

Looking at the quality of shoots I'm guessing the camera's used for photo's would be something similar to a Canon 600D or t4i which, is around about $1,100. Then based on some of the better video shoots (quality wise) photographers are probably using something like a Panasonic Ag-ac90 or similar handheld which, are around $1,800. So buying two DSLRs at $1,100 is saving about a 1,000. Again I'm purely speculating but if this where the case and each photographer where to use the same or similar equipment there would be no issue with consistency shoot-to-shoot in terms of quality apart from the lack of lighting some of the guys have or don't. Then again the $1000 they just saved might come in handy for that

Not exactly feed back about what I'm viewing in terms of content but some times it can be a little disappointing to see a new model being let down by the video quality of her shoot.. I'm talking dark and grainy as has sometimes been the case. Just taking steps to have that consistency between shoots at least brings the overall quality of the content up a notch in my opinion.

[vidman]

Vidman - you're getting tiring again. It's going to be time for you to take a break if you're going to continue to misbehave.


Seanchai, no disrespect, but I am not your child, nor am I your employee. So don't threaten me with "taking a break if I continue to misbehave." BTG doesn't pay my bills or provide me sanctity during my trials and tribulations. In fact, last I remember, I paid you $35 a month.

Let's make one thing clear here. I have a 1st amendment right to say what I want to say, when I want to say it and how I want to say it. I am in no means disrespectful to any of the young ladies on your site, nor have I ever made any disrespectful comments in any thread about any of the ladies. But if I feel that your site could be more creative then I will express that any way I see fit. If I want to be blunt, I will. If I want to be sarcastic, I will. If I want to be a Mr. Nice guy, I will. If I want to bitch, I will. If I want to whine and moan, guess what...... Instead of being sensitive about the way something is being said, focus more on the significance of the comment. Afterall, your customers know what they like. Yes you do have the best updates and newest girls on your site weekly, but how about pairing that with nuance. Don't just keep living off of the fact that you have the newest girls every week. Couple your great weekly updates with creativity. Again, TS Playground is a great example. I understand that time and talent aren't always on your side, but it seems to me that it never is. Do you remember the shoot that Remy did with Sasha Strokes when they were out on the beach? That was an excellent shoot! It was different, it was refreshing. Much more exciting than the weekly Motel 6 room shoots.

Hey, if you don't like what I convey then send me on my break, just make sure it's permanent. I shall be fine Seanchai. Now that I think about it, I hardly ever participate in the forums anymore anyway. I mean lets face it, people are so scared to say something wrong in the house of Seanchai the dictator until the average conversation nowadays is about Resident Evil 6 and zombies.

Oh, and another word of respectful advice......how about coming on the forum and starting a thread thanking your loyal and dedicated customers and supporters for helping to make you as successful as you are. In my entire 10 + years on this Forum, not one time have I seen you come on and just give it up to your patrons. The only time you say anything is if you're trying to promote something or chastising someone. Not cool.

Thanks

[GroobySteven]

Seanchai, no disrespect, but I am not your child, nor am I your employee. So don't threaten me with "taking a break if I continue to misbehave." BTG doesn't pay my bills or provide me sanctity during my trials and tribulations. In fact, last I remember, I paid you $35 a month.

You behave like a spoiled child and that's why you get chastised. You consistently disrespect and undermine. If you pay $35 you get delivered what is promised, it doesn't give you the right to be abusive.

Let's make one thing clear here. I have a 1st amendment right to say what I want to say, when I want to say it and how I want to say it. I am in no means disrespectful to any of the young ladies on your site, nor have I ever made any disrespectful comments in any thread about any of the ladies. But if I feel that your site could be more creative then I will express that any way I see fit. If I want to be blunt, I will. If I want to be sarcastic, I will. If I want to be a Mr. Nice guy, I will. If I want to bitch, I will. If I want to whine and moan, guess what......

All irrelevant - this is a moderated forum and you don't have any of those as a right here.

Instead of being sensitive about the way something is being said, focus more on the significance of the comment. Afterall, your customers know what they like. Yes you do have the best updates and newest girls on your site weekly, but how about pairing that with nuance. Don't just keep living off of the fact that you have the newest girls every week. Couple your great weekly updates with creativity. Again, TS Playground is a great example. I understand that time and talent aren't always on your side, but it seems to me that it never is. Do you remember the shoot that Remy did with Sasha Strokes when they were out on the beach? That was an excellent shoot! It was different, it was refreshing. Much more exciting than the weekly Motel 6 room shoots.

It's not about sensitivity. If I was that bothered about that, I simply wouldn't have a forum such as this. I've stated this before, I believe we're the only company of it's type which allows such open and frank discourse which anybody (not just members) can see. Whinging and moaning, doesn't help anyone. Your paragraph above is a perfect example of how feedback SHOULD be - you're telling us how you want it, not just moaning or undermining. I can send this (or direct photographers) to this this so they can see what can be done.

Hey, if you don't like what I convey then send me on my break, just make sure it's permanent. I shall be fine Seanchai. Now that I think about it, I hardly ever participate in the forums anymore anyway. I mean lets face it, people are so scared to say something wrong in the house of Seanchai the dictator until the average conversation nowadays is about Resident Evil 6 and zombies.

Zzzzzzzz. More over-reaction and again dis-respect to the other members of this forum. Fuck off if you don't like it - or stay and have some respect.

Oh, and another word of respectful advice......how about coming on the forum and starting a thread thanking your loyal and dedicated customers and supporters for helping to make you as successful as you are. In my entire 10 + years on this Forum, not one time have I seen you come on and just give it up to your patrons. The only time you say anything is if you're trying to promote something or chastising someone. Not cool.

This clearly shows you have no idea. I consistently reference and thank the membership across all our sites (including on this forum and editorial) without whom we'd have no company. I think that's a pretty pathetic and clearly absolutely wrong statement so I'll be happy to show what an idiot you are - I'll be making another big one in my end of year statement this year. I'll expect and accept an apology.

New Year 2011
So at the end of 2010 - I'd like to say a huge thank you to the photographers, the models, all the staff and support teams which keep this site running but most importantly, of course, to YOU the members who keep this site going, who keep allowing us a budget to shoot these models all over the world and who participate in the site's forum, comments and enabling us to keep going.
THANK YOU.


May 17 2011
Thanks for your continuing support ... it's YOUR patronage that gives us the ability to get out there and try new models and bring back favourites.


June 2012
Thanks for your continuing support of BlackTgirls - helping us bring you, the newest black tgirl models, bringing new models into the industry and reshooting those you've requested.

Start of 2012
http://black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4619
None of this could be possible with you. You are responsible for providing the budget to shoot those scenes, to bring the top models into our studios, to encourage new models to come and work with us and for us to continually strive to try and improve what we're offering to you or what you may need. We're constantly trying to find ways to provide you extra value for money and I think the addition for the Grooby For Free sets in 2011 have proven popular. As the economic situations worsen we will try and identify new ways to either provide you with more for your membership or more affordable solutions - and of course, we do have some free outlets, the aforemention Tgflix.com, tgirls.com, shemales.xxx and ladyboys.xxx for when you are between memberships.

THANK YOU all very much, for your continuing support and for allowing me to be able to work with the best team of support staff, photographers and models. This is my 16th year (or maybe 17th, I think I lost one in Amsterdam) doing this and I still love being able to serve you these fabulous girls so thank you all for that.
We listen to and rely on your feedback and although it's not possible to make everyone happy, we do try - so please rate and comment on the models, leave feedback in the forum or contact us directly.

[vidman]

You behave like a spoiled child and that's why you get chastised. You consistently disrespect and undermine. If you pay $35 you get delivered what is promised, it doesn't give you the right to be abusive.



All irrelevant - this is a moderated forum and you don't have any of those as a right here.




It's not about sensitivity. If I was that bothered about that, I simply wouldn't have a forum such as this. I've stated this before, I believe we're the only company of it's type which allows such open and frank discourse which anybody (not just members) can see. Whinging and moaning, doesn't help anyone. Your paragraph above is a perfect example of how feedback SHOULD be - you're telling us how you want it, not just moaning or undermining. I can send this (or direct photographers) to this this so they can see what can be done.



Zzzzzzzz. More over-reaction and again dis-respect to the other members of this forum. Fuck off if you don't like it - or stay and have some respect.



This clearly shows you have no idea. I consistently reference and thank the membership across all our sites (including on this forum and editorial) without whom we'd have no company. I think that's a pretty pathetic and clearly absolutely wrong statement so I'll be happy to show what an idiot you are - I'll be making another big one in my end of year statement this year. I'll expect and accept an apology.

New Year 2011
So at the end of 2010 - I'd like to say a huge thank you to the photographers, the models, all the staff and support teams which keep this site running but most importantly, of course, to YOU the members who keep this site going, who keep allowing us a budget to shoot these models all over the world and who participate in the site's forum, comments and enabling us to keep going.
THANK YOU.


May 17 2011
Thanks for your continuing support ... it's YOUR patronage that gives us the ability to get out there and try new models and bring back favourites.


June 2012
Thanks for your continuing support of BlackTgirls - helping us bring you, the newest black tgirl models, bringing new models into the industry and reshooting those you've requested.

Start of 2012
http://black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4619
None of this could be possible with you. You are responsible for providing the budget to shoot those scenes, to bring the top models into our studios, to encourage new models to come and work with us and for us to continually strive to try and improve what we're offering to you or what you may need. We're constantly trying to find ways to provide you extra value for money and I think the addition for the Grooby For Free sets in 2011 have proven popular. As the economic situations worsen we will try and identify new ways to either provide you with more for your membership or more affordable solutions - and of course, we do have some free outlets, the aforemention Tgflix.com, tgirls.com, shemales.xxx and ladyboys.xxx for when you are between memberships.

THANK YOU all very much, for your continuing support and for allowing me to be able to work with the best team of support staff, photographers and models. This is my 16th year (or maybe 17th, I think I lost one in Amsterdam) doing this and I still love being able to serve you these fabulous girls so thank you all for that.
We listen to and rely on your feedback and although it's not possible to make everyone happy, we do try - so please rate and comment on the models, leave feedback in the forum or contact us directly.

I haven't disrespected anyone at all, other than the few people I have had personal beef with like Smuzik and we have both disrespected each other. Outside of those parameters, if anyone feels that I have disrespected them just based on my general comments that I post from time-to-time, I'm sure they would have made it an issue.

Again, the only thing I feel I owe to the members, photogs and models of this site is not personally talking badly about a model in particular, or a photographer's work in particular, which I have NEVER done. Other than that, if I have an opinion I will voice it as I see fit Mr. Dictator. So you fuck off! You behave like a spoiled child by losing your cool when someone says something you don't like about your precious site. Or when they don't say it exactly the way you want it said. Please! You moderate your site, not me! I don't need to be moderated because I understand how this works which is why I don't disrespect or talk badly about any one person in particular. I won't be chastised by you or anyone else. I'm not your kid or subordinate!!

Hell no I'm not apologizing to you for anything! I don't have to kiss your ass Seanchai. Like I told you before, I don't even hit the forums anymore. I could care less what's being said on these forums. All I care about is seeing the girls. I don't need this Forum for that, I can pay you $35. SO BOOT ME!!

I consistently undermine and disrespect? Dude, I'm hardly on here anymore and its been that way for a while. So that in itself is a lie!

This conversation is pointless Seanchai. It didn't solve anything, nor did you prove your point other than the fact that I was mistaken about you thanking your members. I am not disrespectful at all. In fact, I am quite mild compared to some of your Forum members.

[GroobySteven]

It didn't solve anything, nor did you prove your point other than the fact that I was mistaken about you thanking your members. I am not disrespectful at all. In fact, I am quite mild compared to some of your Forum members.

Continuing to show your lack of class by continuously calling me names and refusing to apologize when you called me our for something you were clearly mistaken for.
Ciao.

[werwt22]

I agree. You need to spend more time listening to what were trying to say instead of critiquing the way its said. I feel like every time i come to you with something (which is very rare) you dismiss it and give excuses as to why things are the way they are. Truth be told, I really wouldnt be mad if things didnt change, as long as I feel you were really trying to hear me out and actually made an attempt to listen. Stop being so defensive/argumentative and just try to listen. Thats all I ask of you.

[werwt22]

Nice selection of the women in the update by the way. My faith is slowly being restored lol

[GroobySteven]

I agree. You need to spend more time listening to what were trying to say instead of critiquing the way its said. I feel like every time i come to you with something (which is very rare) you dismiss it and give excuses as to why things are the way they are. Truth be told, I really wouldnt be mad if things didnt change, as long as I feel you were really trying to hear me out and actually made an attempt to listen. Stop being so defensive/argumentative and just try to listen. Thats all I ask of you.

I listen to everything - and we respond to a lot but I've said this before, I'm not going to simply pay you lip service and say we're going to make those changes only for them not to be done. If something can't be done, or I don't think enough people want it done - or if you don't understand how we work, then I'm going to answer and explain that to you. If you don't like the answers then there isn't much more I can do about that but I think this is far more respectful and useful to you and the community, than just saying anything to keep you paying.

[werwt22]

I listen to everything - and we respond to a lot but I've said this before, I'm not going to simply pay you lip service and say we're going to make those changes only for them not to be done. If something can't be done, or I don't think enough people want it done - or if you don't understand how we work, then I'm going to answer and explain that to you. If you don't like the answers then there isn't much more I can do about that but I think this is far more respectful and useful to you and the community, than just saying anything to keep you paying.

I respect that answer.