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    Quote Originally Posted by raheme View Post
    That's one hell of a stretch in logic mr fantastic...

    If you (not personally) want to be a jump off/freak and fuck 80 guys in one year by all means do it...its your walls & balls not mine. But please don't confuse that with one being sexually liberated...and please don't try to pass that off as some new form of feminism.

    The basic underlying principle of what you've modeled for and escorted for is to provide pleasure for men who seek to pay you for your services...the same is true for Remy. She's paid to provide a service...a service which most "feminist" would not agree with.
    My man, you're wasting your time. A criminal can always justify their crimes, a liar always seems to be able to justify their lies and a preacher always has a way of justifying their religion. Get the analogy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsamberskyi View Post
    I'm merely trying to make the point that one can be in the adult industry in whatever form and still be a decent person worthy of respect.
    Not many here would argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsamberskyi View Post
    It's sexually liberating because it's her choice to barter her body and sexuality in exchange for goods.she shouldn't be penalized legally or socially.often times society devalues woman who enter the sex trade and treat them like second class citizens.i mean look at the comments directed to me on this forum.people would like me to believe that because I'm an escort I'm not intelligent, don't have a voice and am of less value than woman who don't escort.
    I'm merely trying to make the point that one can be in the adult industry in whatever form and still be a decent person worthy of respect.
    I don't disagree with you Amber. I can see why it is sexually liberating and the reason behind your arguments. what I was trying to say is that women who become sex workers wouldn't do this just to make a point about feminism. If ones primary reason for escorting is to strive for sexual equality then being a an escort is a rather extreme way to make that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk_jnd View Post
    Wow, that's a gigantic leap Remy. It would gross me out too so I don't know what to make of that statement. Say, you got something against red-blooded, skirt-chasing dudes lately?
    What gigantic leap, I quoted what he himself said. He is the person that finds another human being situation as "gross" for trying to be who they want to be. It is common for people to hide and show disdain for what people can't understand about themselves or others. I have nothing against skirt chasing dudes, I have something against ignorance no matter which gender it manifests itself.

    You don't want to be with a man that's fair enough. I'd wager that your primary interest was physical and not emotional which would explain how easily one can dismiss her de-transitioning as "gross". It says a lot that you cared not a wit to mention the situations she may have been going through to bring about such a change in lifestyle, it was all just "weird" and "gross" right? I find this person you refer to, to be a much braver person than the many DL men who can't handle reality so hide behind the facade and anonymity of the internet and travel to places no one knows you to partake with trans women. I imagine most of your family, friends, and customers that come to your business would find you "gross" should they find out about your sexual proclivities, and you would be hurt by such reaction.

    It is really easy to see why you can't grasp the possibility of sex positive feminism, time to broaden your horizons by reading a bit. Just because a woman chooses to produce porn doesn't mean she can't be a feminist or that it devalues the movement. Sex positive feminism is in part about women taking control of their sexual desires and activities instead of having them dictated to them by men. Anyone who has been on my set would attest to the fact that I aim to show these women as they want to be seen, never forcing them to try and please anyone but themselves and to display themselves in a way that they personally find appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Remy M View Post
    What gigantic leap, I quoted what he himself said. He is the person that finds another human being situation as "gross" for trying to be who they want to be. It is common for people to hide and show disdain for what people can't understand about themselves or others. I have nothing against skirt chasing dudes, I have something against ignorance no matter which gender it manifests itself.

    You don't want to be with a man that's fair enough. I'd wager that your primary interest was physical and not emotional which would explain how easily one can dismiss her de-transitioning as "gross". It says a lot that you cared not a wit to mention the situations she may have been going through to bring about such a change in lifestyle, it was all just "weird" and "gross" right? I find this person you refer to, to be a much braver person than the many DL men who can't handle reality so hide behind the facade and anonymity of the internet and travel to places no one knows you to partake with trans women. I imagine most of your family, friends, and customers that come to your business would find you "gross" should they find out about your sexual proclivities, and you would be hurt by such reaction.

    It is really easy to see why you can't grasp the possibility of sex positive feminism, time to broaden your horizons by reading a bit. Just because a woman chooses to produce porn doesn't mean she can't be a feminist or that it devalues the movement. Sex positive feminism is in part about women taking control of their sexual desires and activities instead of having them dictated to them by men. Anyone who has been on my set would attest to the fact that I aim to show these women as they want to be seen, never forcing them to try and please anyone but themselves and to display themselves in a way that they personally find appealing.
    I take your first point but, sorry, the product consumed on this and many other porn sites is "physical". People subscribe to this and many other porn sites because they are attracted to the way the women are presented - big ol booties, tits, fine face etc.

    Despite what you say, you are complicit in packaging the product to appeal to this market. If a girl's idea of a session is to show up and present herself sitting there reading a book, you won't go for it. Perhaps your USP is you don't tell her to "wiggle dat booty" or "spread dat hole". No, your moires are more subtle but the end result is the same. You and the girl have an understanding of what the market want, try as you might wanna hide it behind some positivism stuff.

    It's all good though, no one's fronting on that score as long as we understand it's all on the physical on this side. As in, if I see a person I've jerked of one in full male mode, I'll be grossed out. If I see Belladonna with a full-on moustache, hairy pits and a beer paunch, I'd be grossed out too. It is a reaction to my sexual pendulum being scrambled at that point it doesn't mean I'm hating on the person or dissing their lifestyle like you immediately assumed.

    You don't gotta turn around and get all psychoanalytical on your market as you're doing lately. You end up making all those gigantic leaps.

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    it goes just beyond allowing a girl to present herself the way she wants to be presented.
    this industry is a male dominated and often a often chauvinistic one.i cant tell you how many times remy and i hear really awful stories about the girls being taking advantage of.everything from fake ass "producers" promising to build girls websites (and never following thru) while their true intentions are getting to take some free explicit pics of a hot girl to out right violence against the models.
    Remy is all about giving the girls a safe avenue to express them selves sexually and make some money without being disrespected or victimized.that is what feminism is about after all, respect and equal treatment for woman in ALL arenas of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Remy M View Post
    I can see how some people could feel that way, mostly because they focus on the physical aspects of their being, and not the core of who they are. I've been there once before with someone I was talking to, and had no problem with their decision. I've also known friends that decided to de-transition. It's a very hard and personal decision and me as the person I am could never turn my back on someone on account of that.
    Agreed. As older guy I've seen she go back to he several times. When I was younger and more obsessed with the myth of physical appearance it was off-putting but now I understand.

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    Just filmed two more young trans women. Both in early 20's, one from Philly and another from DC. Both currently in college, don't do any sex work at all, and are on various popular 'straight' social networks. Don't see why you guys have such a hard time, that's 8 pretty young non sex worker trans women I've met since 2013 started.

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    wow this thread is all over the place LOL. Very valid points from several of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Remy M View Post
    Just filmed two more young trans women. Both in early 20's, one from Philly and another from DC. Both currently in college, don't do any sex work at all, and are on various popular 'straight' social networks. Don't see why you guys have such a hard time, that's 8 pretty young non sex worker trans women I've met since 2013 started.
    Uh I'm gonna call bs on this.

    Maybe I'm jaded but in order for u to meet them they gotta have a get money attitude.

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