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    Quote Originally Posted by kanguru View Post
    LOL this is the realest shit I've read in awhile. I can't stand niggas in a wig. I'm not gonna lie tho, I've beat my meat to some cross dressers, but they were pretty passable for a shemale beginning a transition. That's rare though, because most of the time cross dressers look horrid lol.

    Either way, gay dudes will def. try to hustle you these days. I had one horrible experience with that and it's why I don't trust escort ads. Well, I don't get excited over a listing without some research. So many DL gays just post fake pics and hope you're so dick hungry by the time you show up, they can get your money and their dick wet regardless. It's bull shit lol.

    I don't think they understand a dick on a dude's body and a dick on a feminine body are two different universes LOL. I'm a big dick chaser myself when it comes to shemales, but seeing a dude with a 10 inch dick does absolute jack shit for me arousal wise. Meanwhile a shemale with a 10 incher is gonna make me nut pretty quick. These things don't overlap lol. This is why I don't consider myself bi. At the end of the day, I still want you to look, sound, act, smell, feel, and live like a lady.

    I guess they think trannies are gate way porn? I've been looking at shemales since 2003 and I haven't even had to urge to look at gay porn.
    Cross dressers don't transition, they just cross dress. DL men are not the ones you are meeting from the ads, the people you are meeting from the ads are open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Remy M View Post
    Cross dressers don't transition, they just cross dress. DL men are not the ones you are meeting from the ads, the people you are meeting from the ads are open.
    Na I beg to differ. DL dudes and crossdressers are both impostors. I don't think there is a difference when it comes to posting fake ads you can get either and you'd never know. No absolutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsamberskyi View Post
    like I said before I dont believe in "outing" people because of my own personal integrity but if being put in that situation is so serious than why engage in sexual relations in the first place?
    as far as the Kerry Rhodes situation I can't comment because I'm not familiar but do you know the nature of their relationship? when people act ashamed than you allow for the possibility to be victimized. athletes have come out before of their own free will and haven't lost their careers.
    any who I'm sorry but your just not going to gain any sympathy from a ts for dl men. we go through so much just to be who we are ( the woman yall desire) and while you guys want to sleep with us you can't work up just a fraction of the courage we had to? I'm sorry but I just don't have time for that sort out thing in my personal life
    thats fine, its understandable if you choose not to have relations with a DL man. your beautiful on the outside and the inside. which leads us back to the outing and judging part. we agree that outing is a wrong but i guess we disagree on the judging of a DL man. imo a DL man should not be looked down by lgbt community as long as he not hurting anybody; just my own humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Remy M View Post
    lol Outing is wrong, I don't think anyone is arguing that. However; there would be nothing to 'out' if the person would just be comfortable with himself and not hide the fact that he also like men (in the case of Rhodes) or trans women.
    but what your not understanding is him being open to his sexuality, may cause a negative affect to his professional and personal career. its obvious that the rumors have had a negative affect on kerry, he can not get a job and that may even lead him to not having any opportunities outside of the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ty-clone View Post
    but what your not understanding is him being open to his sexuality, may cause a negative affect to his professional and personal career. its obvious that the rumors have had a negative affect on kerry, he can not get a job and that may even lead him to not having any opportunities outside of the NFL
    Do you know for a fact that he still is unable to get a job? Could it be that maybe he doesn't have a degree/experience in a field that is hiring?

    You guys just want excuses for thinking with your dicks instead of your heads. I still say if you are worried about repercussions of dealing with a transsexual the answer is simple, don't deal with a transsexual. You know if you jump in a cage with a pride of lioness you likely to get hurt so you don't do it. Conversely, if you scared people finding out you like to be with transsexuals is going to destroy your life, than don't be with transsexuals. This isn't rocket science...

    Trust trans women wont be hurt by DL men vanishing from the scene, that makes it all the more easier for them to find men that will respect them, so that a Win/Win. DL men keep their attractions safely hidden away and transwomen get exposed to men that do care about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Remy M View Post
    Do you know for a fact that he still is unable to get a job? Could it be that maybe he doesn't have a degree/experience in a field that is hiring?

    You guys just want excuses for thinking with your dicks instead of your heads. I still say if you are worried about repercussions of dealing with a transsexual the answer is simple, don't deal with a transsexual. You know if you jump in a cage with a pride of lioness you likely to get hurt so you don't do it. Conversely, if you scared people finding out you like to be with transsexuals is going to destroy your life, than don't be with transsexuals. This isn't rocket science...

    Trust trans women wont be hurt by DL men vanishing from the scene, that makes it all the more easier for them to find men that will respect them, so that a Win/Win. DL men keep their attractions safely hidden away and transwomen get exposed to men that do care about them.
    its obvious kerry rhodes can not get a job in the NFL due to him being outed by the gay dude. like i said kerry is a top player at his position. the media has even asked a few current players on their team signing him, and they all gave no comment or said something in affect as no we do not want him.

    i do not understand dl man using our dicks over our head comment. if anything its using our heads, most believe it will cause problems with our family,friends and careers. and repercussions only occur when the dl man is outed. which i assume you believe is wrong.

    i had my fair share of tgirls association and always been up front about being on the down low, as far as i know none of them had an issue with that. if not they would have stop it. i think you and amber are more or less referring to a dl man having a serious relationship with lgbt individual. my comments were directly to the person in the video and any lgbt person whom so sign with that mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ty-clone View Post
    its obvious kerry rhodes can not get a job in the NFL due to him being outed by the gay dude. like i said kerry is a top player at his position. the media has even asked a few current players on their team signing him, and they all gave no comment or said something in affect as no we do not want him.

    i do not understand dl man using our dicks over our head comment. if anything its using our heads, most believe it will cause problems with our family,friends and careers. and repercussions only occur when the dl man is outed. which i assume you believe is wrong.

    i had my fair share of tgirls association and always been up front about being on the down low, as far as i know none of them had an issue with that. if not they would have stop it. i think you and amber are more or less referring to a dl man having a serious relationship with lgbt individual. my comments were directly to the person in the video and any lgbt person whom so sign with that mentality.
    dl men always have 99 excuses and I'm not trying to hear none. I've dated plenty of guys both seriously and casually ( none of them jobless losers) with out all the negative consequences you listed.
    there are tons of employed lgbt that have successful careers and hold positions of power. being lgbt or being associated with the lgbt community isn't social or career suicide in 2013'
    not to put you on blast but if I recall aren't you a client? most girls aren't going to care if their clients are on the low. it not as if it has any impact on their social life.
    trust tho that a girl who is pretty, passable and has something going for themselves (the sheebas, the victoria porches, etc) aren't going to deal with a dl man on a social level because there are men out there who don't have all these hang ups.

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    I just got out of a relationship with a ts woman for 8 months. If anyone asked I told them the truth but I didn't overtly go about telling everyone our business. It was our business what happened in the bedroom, outside of that she was every bit a lady. People told me I was on the dl because I didn't tell them when they first met her. Not their business and I let her make her own impression. She was also a vegetarian but I didn't broadcast it because it wasn't their business lol. The problem is you gotta pick a higher quality of tgirl. Some of these working girls do not know what else they want in life so they scheme to make it big. Some people will do anything to get rich and not ever care on who gets destroyed in the process and that comes in every walk of life. Dope boys made it big stringing out communities, tgirls made it big outing celebrities, GG's made it big getting pregnant by someone rich, and big business made it big by crushing the little guys. Stop jumping in with just anybody who looks good but choose wisely. If you are just trying to get a quick nut then you open yourself up to lots of risks dl or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsamberskyi View Post
    dl men always have 99 excuses and I'm not trying to hear none. I've dated plenty of guys both seriously and casually ( none of them jobless losers) with out all the negative consequences you listed.
    there are tons of employed lgbt that have successful careers and hold positions of power. being lgbt or being associated with the lgbt community isn't social or career suicide in 2013'
    not to put you on blast but if I recall aren't you a client? most girls aren't going to care if their clients are on the low. it not as if it has any impact on their social life.
    trust tho that a girl who is pretty, passable and has something going for themselves (the sheebas, the victoria porches, etc) aren't going to deal with a dl man on a social level because there are men out there who don't have all these hang ups.
    its not excuses, its reality. i gave you an example of that reality with kerry rhodes the NFL player. dont get me wrong, im not implying its social/career suicide especially in 2013; but its still a problem in today society. we all was sadden to hear the news where the young tgirl was beaten and killed in harlem and that was only a few months ago.
    yes im a client but i've met plenty of tgirl online via chat rooms or bgc and like i said when we hookup to hang out weather for drinks, smoke or just me driving them around none of them had an issue with me being a dl man.
    and for the those pretty passable tgirls that have things going for them, well some of them indeed deal with dl man. you really think those high end girls dont have some sort of causal relationship with famous rich man who are on the down low as well?
    amber and to remy as well, im not trying to argue with yous. both of y'all are beautiful intelligent girls. i just dont think im a bad person because i choose not to share my personal lifestyle with my family friends and co workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ty-clone View Post
    its not excuses, its reality. i gave you an example of that reality with kerry rhodes the NFL player. dont get me wrong, im not implying its social/career suicide especially in 2013; but its still a problem in today society. we all was sadden to hear the news where the young tgirl was beaten and killed in harlem and that was only a few months ago.
    yes im a client but i've met plenty of tgirl online via chat rooms or bgc and like i said when we hookup to hang out weather for drinks, smoke or just me driving them around none of them had an issue with me being a dl man.
    and for the those pretty passable tgirls that have things going for them, well some of them indeed deal with dl man. you really think those high end girls dont have some sort of causal relationship with famous rich man who are on the down low as well?
    amber and to remy as well, im not trying to argue with yous. both of y'all are beautiful intelligent girls. i just dont think im a bad person because i choose not to share my personal lifestyle with my family friends and co workers.

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    there are always going to be instances of ignorance in the world but that is by no means a reflection of general society. for example, there was a black man who was gunned down by the cops for no reason what so ever in charlotte, north carolinia. if we went off of that incident than one would have to believe that racism is flourishing in america when that simply isnt the reality. the reality is that yes some people have their heart filled with hate but the world is a much more accepting and tolerant place theses days. as ive said many times on this forum we need to stop just focusing on the negative (the stories of ts woman getting murdered) but also focus on the positive advancements that ts woman are making (the ts actresses, models, judges, government officials and etc). when you only focus one on side of an issues it gives you an unbalanced perception.
    as far as the kerry rhodes situation other factors have to be taken into account for his unemployment such as his age (he's over 30) and how much money he's asking for. apparently he was offered a 3 million deal but he passed over it. there are several openly gay sport professionals like orlando cruz or jason collins.
    i cant speak for whatever girls you deal with but i know myself and the girls i know personally (which included the late Sheeba) dont deal with dl men on a social level.
    while i dont think your a bad man for being dl per i just dont have room in my life for guys like you.i find it personally insulting that someone can think that im good enough to fuck but not to be seen or associated with.you can sugar coat it a zillion different ways from sunday but thats what being dl is saying.
    my attitude toward dl men is,if im not good enough for you to be associated with than your not good enough for me to acknowledged

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