I think most guys/girls seek excusivity

[bigdicki]

I won't try to attempt the deep philosophical and psychological analysis that TVSurfer did, and did well. My thing is that there are some girls (TG or GG) that are hoes... they sell ass for cash. When it comes to TGs, those are typically going to be the ones we meet due to our fetishizing of them. Now, here is thing and it goes for GG's or TG's, YOU CAN'T TURN A HO INTO A HOUSEWIFE. If you hook up with a tg to trick off, it will be near impossible to have a substantive relationship. That doesn't mean they aren't good people or cool people to hang out with or chill with and drink with. It means keep your heart out the game, or get played. May sound harsh, but that's reality. For TGs, I WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING. A lot of us ARE DOGS and if you get involved with most of us (but not me of course ) we will fall into the next piece of ass that gets our dick hard. Real talk.

[TVSURFER]

Ya couldn't have more real than that Bigdicki! I lmao!

[MrKnockOut]

I hear what your saying. I stumble on a internet radio show a few weeks ago. Its called queens of media, a show that’s hosted by 2 well known black TG. Their show is about black TG and all the shit they go thru and how their feel about society and such. Well 1 of there shows was a 2 parter on tranny chasers. So, I listen to both shows and came to the conclusion that black TG seem not to respect man that adore them. Some of the callers on the show called man that like TG fags, homo and all sorts of derogatory names. It was a wake call for me, cause im at a point in my life, thinking well maybe its may be in my best interest to pursue a TG rather then a GG. I had many relationship with GG and some have been good while other been not so good. Any way the show was a turn off, after hearing the lack of respect from a overwhelming majority of the TG, I said fuck it. How can I have a relationship with someone that deep down inside dosnt respect me for being with them. I concluded my thoughts that most TG, well the black ones, seem to have a self hatred of themselves. How can a TG feel these ways toward straight men that admire them? they must have internal hate for themselves. It just like a client hooking up with an escort. If each of them doesn’t respect one another then they have serous issues. A client could not see an escort and say to himself that escort are dirty whore seeking money cause they don’t want to work a regular 9 to 5, just as a escort can not say to herself that clients are low life, scum bags trying to get their sexual fantasy off. it’s a catch 22

Well, if anyone wants to hear the show im talking about, just PM me. Or ill post the link in the forum, as long as seanchia says it cool.

I know it might sound like they are bashing and "hating" on all men but in reality, to learned individual, what they are really saying is that they dislike their life and they hate the poor choices they've made, therefore they take it on the next sucker or herb who doesn't have the confidence or intelligence to go toe to toe with them. That's like the hubby who gets shitted on at work and comes home to beat his wife and kid instead of dealing with his boss like a man. Displaced anger...

[MrKnockOut]

I won't try to attempt the deep philosophical and psychological analysis that TVSurfer did, and did well. My thing is that there are some girls (TG or GG) that are hoes... they sell ass for cash. When it comes to TGs, those are typically going to be the ones we meet due to our fetishizing of them. Now, here is thing and it goes for GG's or TG's, YOU CAN'T TURN A HO INTO A HOUSEWIFE. If you hook up with a tg to trick off, it will be near impossible to have a substantive relationship. That doesn't mean they aren't good people or cool people to hang out with or chill with and drink with. It means keep your heart out the game, or get played. May sound harsh, but that's reality. For TGs, I WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING. A lot of us ARE DOGS and if you get involved with most of us (but not me of course ) we will fall into the next piece of ass that gets our dick hard. Real talk.

I'll add to this, that a lot of dudes need to just be really fucking honest with themselves. If all you want is some ass or dick, keep that shit real, stop complaining and pay the broads. In the long run it'll be cheaper and easier than trying to front like you care about a chick on a deeper level than just fucking. A relationship requires time and money, more so than just paying a set hourly rate, busting a nut and bouncing. Assess your situation and your needs and wants and go for what you really need. I don't care how nice of a guy you are, you aint tricking no professional escort into liking you solely because of that fact. Morality and ethics aint a hookers strong point chief...

[Handandsom]

I'll add to this, that a lot of dudes need to just be really fucking honest with themselves. If all you want is some ass or dick, keep that shit real, stop complaining and pay the broads. In the long run it'll be cheaper and easier than trying to front like you care about a chick on a deeper level than just fucking. A relationship requires time and money, more so than just paying a set hourly rate, busting a nut and bouncing. Assess your situation and your needs and wants and go for what you really need. I don't care how nice of a guy you are, you aint tricking no professional escort into liking you solely because of that fact. Morality and ethics aint a hookers strong point chief...

TRUE that! That honesty that fo-real we always had a problem w/ (excluding myself of course) But this is what defines an adult (responsiblity, first to yourself, then to anyone you interact with). History tells the same story in dealing with real chicks. We will trick our way into the pussy, i won't front i did it for a little bit until i realized it was less drama if i let shorty know that i was just in it for the skinz and a little conversation. We got to do better on that end otherwise just like these girls get beside themselves and whind up thinking they can rule the kingdom and be disrespectful so will these TG's.

[Handandsom]

B4 i knew better i use to try to get my girl to give me anal and she would always complain this aint right so forth and the rest of that bullshit. SO I figured you know what i'm going to find me another shorty who love's giving it like i do getting it. But then it became a job i had to do all this extra shit to get it and still go through the above bullshit. So I got into TS whom i figured not only do they love it but hey they should have the same drive i have (can't get better than that). And now i'm here and learning more than i bargained for. But its all good because i still enjoy myself every now and again when i invest in a little bitch-ass-ness (LOL). I'm not going to go as far to call some TS out for who they want to be or what they do. Likewise i don't believe they should try to call me out for what i want to do and who i want to be. We all know what it is and sometimes that truth hurts but in the end its the only thing that will set you free. So that you can enjoy life. I say lets enjoy life.

[TVSURFER]

B4 i knew better i use to try to get my girl to give me anal and she would always complain this aint right so forth and the rest of that bullshit. SO I figured you know what i'm going to find me another shorty who love's giving it like i do getting it. But then it became a job i had to do all this extra shit to get it and still go through the above bullshit. So I got into TS whom i figured not only do they love it but hey they should have the same drive i have (can't get better than that). And now i'm here and learning more than i bargained for. But its all good because i still enjoy myself every now and again when i invest in a little bitch-ass-ness (LOL). I'm not going to go as far to call some TS out for who they want to be or what they do. Likewise i don't believe they should try to call me out for what i want to do and who i want to be. We all know what it is and sometimes that truth hurts but in the end its the only thing that will set you free. So that you can enjoy life. I say lets enjoy life.

True that, Handandsom!

[bigdicki]

"A relationship requires time and money, more so than just paying a set hourly rate, busting a nut and bouncing."

You are speaking the truth 4 sure Mr. Knockout. I know brothers who have a wife and girl they keep on the side and this economy they STAY broke. Give me a little stress relief when I need it and some cool conversation and I'm straight.

And given today is Valentine's Day, it's gonna be some broke-ass dudes come Monday morning!

[TVSURFER]

And given today is Valentine's Day, it's gonna be some broke-ass dudes come Monday morning!

LMAO-Tonight is more like it!

[MrF]

I'll add to this, that a lot of dudes need to just be really fucking honest with themselves. If all you want is some ass or dick, keep that shit real, stop complaining and pay the broads. In the long run it'll be cheaper and easier than trying to front like you care about a chick on a deeper level than just fucking. A relationship requires time and money, more so than just paying a set hourly rate, busting a nut and bouncing. Assess your situation and your needs and wants and go for what you really need. I don't care how nice of a guy you are, you aint tricking no professional escort into liking you solely because of that fact. Morality and ethics aint a hookers strong point chief...

But what is a professional escort ? I agree with the jist of what you're saying, but there are all shades of escort, some are cold-hearted and burned-out, but with some you can "click", depending on the vibe and the attraction.

Having said that, I'd agree that a "relationship" usually means you commit to that person, spend lots of time and money, and have friendship as a basis. For a TG relationship to work, you need to open and honest, ready to introduce her to your friends and family. If she was escorting she'd have to quit -- but it's typically impossible to stop them from escorting, they may be addicted to the money or develop low expectations about men, among other problems.