I think most guys/girls seek excusivity

[TSSexyChanel]

If anyone thinks there are a perfect symbiosis of t-girl and a transsexual fetish lover, they can buy a few bridges I have handy. This subject has been floating around this site for as long as there has been a Black T-girls site. We all know t-girls think of the “Dolla bills, dolla bills yall!”, first! A relationship is a distant second.
Foremost of all, these are not women, although we have made up our minds that they are; they are still genetically males with the same mind-set as any male animal in nature, sex. Human beings are not pigeons or ducks (two of the most monogamous animals in nature); they are the most complicated animals in nature. They have the capacity to think, reason, formulate tools and like any other animal in Mrs. Nature’s world, they think about sex most, if not, all the time! Men, I can honestly and expertly say, do so more than women! Why do you think they call men dogs? Dogs can sniff out pussy from a mile or two miles way!
As most of us can attest, men have a hard time being and staying monogamous. Men will stray, brag about the pussy he’s gotten, who he’s had; be it sister in laws, the girl across the street, the girl at CVS, etc. Some men, the bi guys, will even splork the pizza delivery guy, if given the opportunity!
This isn’t a perfect world and too many t-girls live in Disneyland!
They get out of the creature comfort of their parents homes (for what ever reason); sell or compromise their bodies and try to have a mind-set of the creatures from Venus. Women dream and they pray everyday to try and change the guys they have in their “safekeeping”, because they’ve snared him with that wonderful gash they have between their legs. Hell, we’ve had a president get his knob swabbed in the White House, right under his wife’s nose. He was labled a St Bernard!
I’ve heard women say to their friends, “Girl, I’m going to change him”, because this guy is a womanizer or just a slob! That won’t stop the anonymous cell phone calls, in the middle of the night or the going to the store for two hours for a pack of cigarettes or picking up his nasty draws or keep him from drinking milk from the carton and leaving a teaspoon of the Moo juice in the bottom of the container.
Women think they can whip a guy into shape and at most they can, especially when they tell him they are going to cut off his sex! When that happens, they guy straightens up for a little while. After he does what he thinks has appeased the woman, he’s off doing business as usual. He just might be fixing his radar on her best friend while she’s taking his cum-stained pants to the cleaners!
Now how can a same sex person think they can change a person of the same sex into a stay at home or take her to Red Lobster once a month kind of guy? They can’t! They (t-girls) met him when he was on his ‘predatory’ haunts; free to fuck, suck, ream, and cream and collecting more phone numbers than Yellow Book! If all else fails, he’s not going to change, unless he sees Gabriel at the Pearly Gates! Nevertheless, he’s not going to change unless he meets Morpheus and swallows the Red Pill of real world clarity.
There’s a movie out called Princessa. It’s about a transsexual who moved from her village in Brazil to Italy to ply her trade to send money back home to her impoverished mother. She always thought of meeting her Prince Charming and thought a new beginning would help her in her dreams of love and being a wife.
Things were going so-so until she met a man on the stroll that fell in love with her. He left his wife, set up shop with Princessa; give her the creature comforts of a gg; hair, nails, the latest fashions and even psychological counseling to help her through her quandary. She cooked his meals and cleaned his house; was his arm candy as he took her to the fine restaurants of Rome, until she met the guy’s wife who told her she was pregnant by her “newfound” beau.
This played on her mind because through all he had given her, there was one thing she couldn’t give him, a child! Plus, the glow started to dim when he wanted her to fuck him! She was contemplating suicide until she was stopped by a policeman who made her realize she had a lot to live for being the beautiful ‘woman’ he thought she was. That was her red pill moment and she went back to being Princessa, the transsexual, working the strolls of Rome, again. A dream of love is fleeting, but real is real!
Game recognizes game; you can’t go to Vegas and not expect anything more than gambling and a show. Quantitative, qualitative relationships with t-girls are generations away. One has to remember it took years for gays to come out of the closet to be accepted by the real world and some are still on the “down-low”! T-girls have to go beyond being on Maury, Jerry Springer and Tyra Banks shows. They have to reconcile with themselves, their immediate families and relatives and the world at large. They will have to aspire to be doctors, lawyers and even Indian chiefs to be credible and not be thought of than just sexual orifices. They have to think about being not cute and nineteen forever! Sooner rather than later, they will have to swallow a red pill; they won’t always make the height requirements to get into the amusement park.
The men have to realize that they have to quit thinking with their dicks and live up to the responsibility of monogamy, first! Men should write down the seventh commandment and put it their wallets, under that condom, as a reminder to what living with one person is all about (women, too). However, that’s like telling a Lion to be vegetarian or having Santa Claus to drop by on Labor Day! That's my take.

You are definately someone I would love to talk to.

[TSSexyChanel]

however would u consider a guy who was a little chubby or a little short, or a guy who doesn't have a lot of money, etc? my point is that i have found thru reading and shadowing ts forums like this one, is that most (not all) ts, especially black ts are extremely caught up on materialistic or physical aspects of a potential mate. your analysis of this post suggests that u have, at some point and time, gone beyond looking at the physical/material aspect of a mans qualifications. as far as why do men who like transsexuals label themselves straight, well, i think its a matter of perceptions.

As some one who doesnt subscribe to the you can piss on me and tell me its raining theory. I am a realist and it's not the words that come out of folks mouths that lead me to believe the character of the person but the way they act. You don't have to personally shit on me to lead me to believe you are a shitty person and it benefits me not having you in my life.

Stating what you say you have observed and if you visited as many forums and followed discussions as you say you have can you honestly tell me as a thinking intellegent adult individual can't answer this question yourself. LOL

Most girls can't accept a girl that isn't up to thieir ideal standard of beauty as well as men think we only have worth if we got a certain number of inches in the ass, bust or dick.

At what point does the brain shut down and common sense not come into play?

[MrKnockOut]

the Fantastic Part Of Being A Transexual Is The Ability To Live The Contridiction That The Body Portrays. The Majority Of The Views Of Transexual Women Are As Conflicting As Their Bodies. While Possessing Feminine Appeal They Still Have The Most Masculine Of Features Between Thier Legs.

Girls Take This Into Thier Real Life And Are Walking, Living, Breathing Contridictions. The Same Whore That Will Justify Sleeping With Thousands Of Men All Over The Country Will Tell Friends Of Mine When They Try To Get To Know Them On A Personal Level They Are Trannie Chasers For Having One Of Two Experiences With A Few Girls. I Have Friends That I Havent Even Had Sex With Have Girls Tell Them They Not Intrested Cause They Know Me.

It May Seem That On A Whole That Transexual Women Are Self Centered Self Absorbed Cunts But As Someone That Has Traveled And Met Girls From All Over The World I Can Say That The Representation Of What You Might Experience On The Net Is Not A True Representation Of Transexual Women At All.

There Are Very Few Of Us With True Intellegence That Can Sit Here First Because Life Is Lived Off The Net And Second Because We Know What Is Here. Frankly The Only Reason I Even Visit Forums Like This Is Due To The Fact That I Have So Many Male Friends That Are In Situations Or Areas Where They Have No Access To Transexual Ladies Or Their True Nature Of Thinking.

true. and i will ad to this...men like me are left to make these conclusions/assumptions on our own. i am not a ts, i am not a ts fan or chaser, or any of that nonsense. i dont go to gay clubs. i know that i like what i like. analyzing it beyond that is a matter for deep psycho analysis that i dont think many on these boards are qualified to answer. sure, i would love to visit this ts nirvana, where more than ts escorts and sex workers call home, but that place does not exist to me. i am an average dude from the hood who went to college and made something of himself. aside from eros, bgclive.com, craigslist.org, and a hoe stroll (do they even have ts hoe strolls anymore lol?) where else can a MAN who chooses to exclusively date ts go to find a ts who isnt a part of or associated with the latter?

[BlkMuscleTop]

I read that book very interesting to say the least.

Glad to hear you read it as well, definitely an insightful piece of work. I've always been interested in Brazilian culture and so was fascinated by this book when I read it.

[Ms Remy M]

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I could just Give u a Big Hugggg what a Relief... And we from the same area.. uhhhhh OMG..

Ahhhhh, thanks! I'll be in Richmond today actually lol Hell actually I'd hop on the motorcycle and ride up there everyday to hang with ya'll ladies if it wasn't so hard to get in contact.

[Ms Remy M]

Wow, it's definitely some interesting and "colorful" POVs here... However, did ANY of you think that perhaps a TRANSGENDERED woman might know more about "Trans issues" more than ANY ignorant, self righteous, escort chaser on here???

Let me first start by shedding some light on MY background as to lay a foundation for any future replies.

I have been a transgendered woman for over 11 years (No microwave tranny here... strictly slow roasted and well preserved LOL). Have a BFA and am currently working on my first Masters degree. I have held positions as a make-up artist, make-up artist trainer, model (been a lead in 3 music videos, featured on the cover of 4 national magazines, 1 commercial, and numerous fashion shows, and currently STILL represent 2 national clothing lines as their ad campaign model). I have spoken on transgendered issues at Howard University for a friend (a transgendered nurse working on her Masters degree), as well as counseled and mentored the new generation of transwomen at GMHC (a gay, lesbian & transgendered high school in NYC). PLEASE RESPECT MY AUTHORITY...LOL

It's quite unfortunate that so many of you tranny fans that claim to have so much love for us show such little respect for your fetish. It's sad that your knowledge of trannys doesn't extend past EROS.COM. Albeit, a great deal of transwomen ARE in the adult entertainment industry. We ALL aren't.... The next time you're browsing your normal sites checking out what girl has new pics or seeing who's coming into your town for the weekend try looking on the FEMALE side. They have far more advertisements that transexuals, yet I don't see you all referring to ALL women as "sex workers" and "money grubbers"

I, myself got into the adult entertainment industry 2 years ago primarily because of the lack of respect from men I've encountered in the dating pool. YOUR sexually charged, ignorant views are what cause so many transwomen to resent men and join the ranks of the escort community in the first place. If I, an educated tranny can't find someone accepting of my lifestyle without harboring some sexually deviant behavior (ex. dating me, while secretly hitting on my friends, dating one TS yet paying for escort services from others, only coming around when YOU want something from US ect.) what hope is there for the rest of us? A relationship is NOT based on YOUR convenience. Subsequently, after I adopted the "If you can't beat them, join them attitude" I noticed leagues of other trannys with new escort advertisements. This told me that I was NOT the only one dealing with these issues with men. Guess great minds think alike. After all, if all we are only be viewed as "Sex objects" for which you fulfill your fetishes with, why not be compensated for our time? It's my personal belief that with anything in life it's not what you do, but how you do it.

I can't say I'm really surprised by how most of you think of us... Just shocked that you never took the time to do YOUR RESEARCH on the subject. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that your ONLY dealings with transwomen have been through escorting web sites and porn. There are thousands of transwomen in the workforce. I'm quite sure you'd call me a fool to say "All Jewish men must be cheap bankers" or "All black men must be drug dealers on welfare". Yet, for some reason you all only see us through the small remote dealings you've had. Your views show more about your INTENTIONS than your ignorance. (Perhaps you'd display a more well rounded view of us if you actually stopped looking at escort sites online and stepped from behind your computers and into the "REAL" world. The last time I checked there was no "Tranny world", just the one we ALL are blessed to life in).

What trannys have you people been dealing with that have caused so many of you to project these unrealistic views of what a "tranny wants"? I personally don't care whether a man has had little or no experience with other girls. What it boils down to is how he treats ME. Also, being that I am now in the adult entertainment industry I would NOT consider the idea of a relationship a good idea for myself. Why on earth would any one of YOU even want to date an escort in the first place? Talk about a dumb move..... You'd set yourself up by trying to be exclusive with someone that's clearly not going to reciprocate? I don't think anyone's that foolish... More than likely you're looking for a FREE fling with the tranny of your choice and if it means you gotta spend some quality time, then so be it. Most women and trannys alike expect men to take care of certain financial needs if they are being accommodating as well. By no means does this make them "gold diggers". I, personally am accustomed to receiving gifts and shopping sprees to Louis Vuitton, Bergdorf Goodman, and other retailers from my clients/friends. So why shouldn't I expect the same from someone I'm DATING? Don't get me wrong, I don't suggest for someone to constantly stay in boutiques and such or max out his credit cards to shower me with gifts. But, that let's ME know that I'm more than just a sex object when you LISTEN to the things I say I want and take the initiative to get them for me. I make more than enough money to buy ANYTHING I want for myself, but the act of someone else putting MY wants ABOVE his own makes me feel confident in our bond. I have taken a few guys I was dating on a shopping sprees as well and spent thousands and that made ME feel closer to them and more secure in the relationship we had with one another. Relationships are about expressing your feelings for one another and different people show their emotions in various ways. But, to label trannys as "Out for $$$" is downright foolish. The ONLY reason a tranny would be seeking money from you is because you are CLIENT. Most trannys I associate with in the escorting industry make well over $200,000 a year. In terms of DATING and RELATIONSHIPS we don't want your money, we want your respect.

Since most of you think to know so much about trannys and claim to actually be looking for someone of substance please take the time to volunteer at your local GLBT Non profit organization. Hell, google Dateline's 2 part documentary on transgendered women or even Oprah's transgender episode before you click that "reply" button. I am very interested in having in this discussion, but have no time for ignorance and refuse to speak with anyone that has not taken the time to educate themselves on the topic they claim to love so much.

I think I speak for all of us here on this one: What mags have you appeared in? (I want to grab a copy, Online Back Issues baby!)

What clothing lines do you model for? I'm not into the fashion industry so I'm clueless and don't keep up with the various campaigns. Glad to hear you making out like a fat cat. Surprised that you even bother to escort giving the immense popularity you seem to have. Sounds like you better watch out for TMZ though.

Which 3 music videos did you appear as lead model in? I don't watch music videos and despise Hip-Hop, but my fingers are ready to google them as soon as I get a response.

I had no idea you were in the Adult Entertainment Industry!! As a matter of fact I recall you saying you wouldn't get into the industry (not in those words) when I called you up a few months back. Regardless, what I'm interested in knowning is the work that you did. Was it a DVD? Did you do a shoot for a website? I'm sure all the members here want to go out and buy it to see you in a more intimate and sexual environ.

I personally think that it's great that you are able to successfully juggle working in the Adult Industry, Mainstream modeling, Escorting, and whatever career you have from you BFA. I know that it can be done, there's many GG's that do so with no problems, but that is also one of the most given reasons why a 'ts' wont do a nude photoshoot, claiming "that if they pose nude they won't be able to get into mainstream modeling". 'Get into' also inferring that they haven't even 'made it' yet which is mind boogling.

[MrKnockOut]

Wow, it's definitely some interesting and "colorful" POVs here... However, did ANY of you think that perhaps a TRANSGENDERED woman might know more about "Trans issues" more than ANY ignorant, self righteous, escort chaser on here???

Let me first start by shedding some light on MY background as to lay a foundation for any future replies.

I have been a transgendered woman for over 11 years (No microwave tranny here... strictly slow roasted and well preserved LOL). Have a BFA and am currently working on my first Masters degree. I have held positions as a make-up artist, make-up artist trainer, model (been a lead in 3 music videos, featured on the cover of 4 national magazines, 1 commercial, and numerous fashion shows, and currently STILL represent 2 national clothing lines as their ad campaign model). I have spoken on transgendered issues at Howard University for a friend (a transgendered nurse working on her Masters degree), as well as counseled and mentored the new generation of transwomen at GMHC (a gay, lesbian & transgendered high school in NYC). PLEASE RESPECT MY AUTHORITY...LOL

It's quite unfortunate that so many of you tranny fans that claim to have so much love for us show such little respect for your fetish. It's sad that your knowledge of trannys doesn't extend past EROS.COM. Albeit, a great deal of transwomen ARE in the adult entertainment industry. We ALL aren't.... The next time you're browsing your normal sites checking out what girl has new pics or seeing who's coming into your town for the weekend try looking on the FEMALE side. They have far more advertisements that transexuals, yet I don't see you all referring to ALL women as "sex workers" and "money grubbers"

I, myself got into the adult entertainment industry 2 years ago primarily because of the lack of respect from men I've encountered in the dating pool. YOUR sexually charged, ignorant views are what cause so many transwomen to resent men and join the ranks of the escort community in the first place. If I, an educated tranny can't find someone accepting of my lifestyle without harboring some sexually deviant behavior (ex. dating me, while secretly hitting on my friends, dating one TS yet paying for escort services from others, only coming around when YOU want something from US ect.) what hope is there for the rest of us? A relationship is NOT based on YOUR convenience. Subsequently, after I adopted the "If you can't beat them, join them attitude" I noticed leagues of other trannys with new escort advertisements. This told me that I was NOT the only one dealing with these issues with men. Guess great minds think alike. After all, if all we are only be viewed as "Sex objects" for which you fulfill your fetishes with, why not be compensated for our time? It's my personal belief that with anything in life it's not what you do, but how you do it.

I can't say I'm really surprised by how most of you think of us... Just shocked that you never took the time to do YOUR RESEARCH on the subject. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that your ONLY dealings with transwomen have been through escorting web sites and porn. There are thousands of transwomen in the workforce. I'm quite sure you'd call me a fool to say "All Jewish men must be cheap bankers" or "All black men must be drug dealers on welfare". Yet, for some reason you all only see us through the small remote dealings you've had. Your views show more about your INTENTIONS than your ignorance. (Perhaps you'd display a more well rounded view of us if you actually stopped looking at escort sites online and stepped from behind your computers and into the "REAL" world. The last time I checked there was no "Tranny world", just the one we ALL are blessed to life in).

What trannys have you people been dealing with that have caused so many of you to project these unrealistic views of what a "tranny wants"? I personally don't care whether a man has had little or no experience with other girls. What it boils down to is how he treats ME. Also, being that I am now in the adult entertainment industry I would NOT consider the idea of a relationship a good idea for myself. Why on earth would any one of YOU even want to date an escort in the first place? Talk about a dumb move..... You'd set yourself up by trying to be exclusive with someone that's clearly not going to reciprocate? I don't think anyone's that foolish... More than likely you're looking for a FREE fling with the tranny of your choice and if it means you gotta spend some quality time, then so be it. Most women and trannys alike expect men to take care of certain financial needs if they are being accommodating as well. By no means does this make them "gold diggers". I, personally am accustomed to receiving gifts and shopping sprees to Louis Vuitton, Bergdorf Goodman, and other retailers from my clients/friends. So why shouldn't I expect the same from someone I'm DATING? Don't get me wrong, I don't suggest for someone to constantly stay in boutiques and such or max out his credit cards to shower me with gifts. But, that let's ME know that I'm more than just a sex object when you LISTEN to the things I say I want and take the initiative to get them for me. I make more than enough money to buy ANYTHING I want for myself, but the act of someone else putting MY wants ABOVE his own makes me feel confident in our bond. I have taken a few guys I was dating on a shopping sprees as well and spent thousands and that made ME feel closer to them and more secure in the relationship we had with one another. Relationships are about expressing your feelings for one another and different people show their emotions in various ways. But, to label trannys as "Out for $$$" is downright foolish. The ONLY reason a tranny would be seeking money from you is because you are CLIENT. Most trannys I associate with in the escorting industry make well over $200,000 a year. In terms of DATING and RELATIONSHIPS we don't want your money, we want your respect.

Since most of you think to know so much about trannys and claim to actually be looking for someone of substance please take the time to volunteer at your local GLBT Non profit organization. Hell, google Dateline's 2 part documentary on transgendered women or even Oprah's transgender episode before you click that "reply" button. I am very interested in having in this discussion, but have no time for ignorance and refuse to speak with anyone that has not taken the time to educate themselves on the topic they claim to love so much.

I could really dive head first into this particular post...but i'll chill. I'll just respect your hustle Meagan and your accomplishments.

On a seperate side note, all you dudes from VA need to go and jump off of a cliff right about now. How in the hell do you let 2 baddddddddddddddddd azz, seemingly intelligent sisters like this slip away?

[TSSexyChanel]

true. and i will ad to this...men like me are left to make these conclusions/assumptions on our own. i am not a ts, i am not a ts fan or chaser, or any of that nonsense. i dont go to gay clubs. i know that i like what i like. analyzing it beyond that is a matter for deep psycho analysis that i dont think many on these boards are qualified to answer. sure, i would love to visit this ts nirvana, where more than ts escorts and sex workers call home, but that place does not exist to me. i am an average dude from the hood who went to college and made something of himself. aside from eros, bgclive.com, craigslist.org, and a hoe stroll (do they even have ts hoe strolls anymore lol?) where else can a MAN who chooses to exclusively date ts go to find a ts who isnt a part of or associated with the latter?

Do to the fact that most girls that transisition the goal is to blend in to the point of being undetectable. As men you guys that are seeking TS ladies have a dilema. Basically you are only left with certain places on the net. I see you are from Baltimore I have several girlfriends in that area that work 9-5's or are in school and no one even knows they are TS. Nirvana is all around you LOL. I am a very open transexual though not for business more so for the fact that I can't deal with the stress of being what I think is expected of me. All girls don't feel this way and its understandable for them to feel this way but for me to live as a woman denying my true self for me is just too uncomfy. I always say I am a diamond as we know diamonds are multi faceted everything about me is important to what makes me the person I am.

[Ms Remy M]

I could really dive head first into this particular post...but i'll chill. I'll just respect your hustle Meagan and your accomplishments.

On a seperate side note, all you dudes from VA need to go and jump off of a cliff right about now. How in the hell do you let 2 baddddddddddddddddd azz, seemingly intelligent sisters like this slip away?

Slip away, they still close. besides only time I met Jess in person she was still underage and still looked better than nearly all the locals. I don't like to burn bridges so if a girl turns down a photo-shoot, I'm not gonna keep nagging her about it. I think I've asked 3 times since I've been shooting with Grooby twice was regarding a shoot for the site and once was for a mainstream non-nude magazine spot and she still turned me down, so go figure.

[SEXYTSJESSDOTCOM]

slip Away, They Still Close. Besides Only Time I Met Jess In Person She Was Still Underage And Still Looked Better Than Nearly All The Locals. I Don't Like To Burn Bridges So If A Girl Turns Down A Photo-shoot, I'm Not Gonna Keep Nagging Her About It. I Think I've Asked 3 Times Since I've Been Shooting With Grooby Twice Was Regarding A Shoot For The Site And Once Was For A Mainstream Non-nude Magazine Spot And She Still Turned Me Down, So Go Figure.

Shut Up Remy... I Was Realllllly Busy.. Its No Shade To U Boooo...lol I Ll Be N Norfolk From Wed. To Friday.. We Can Grab A Drink N Shyt.. U Got My Number... Hit Me Up... Lol Silly Self