Do all T-Girls in general...

[Dixie Normous]

I believe your comments refer to only escorts or those in the sex industry in general and i personally believe this is a common theme with T-girls, genetic females and males and as Remy pointed out it is a job, a business, so the girls are used to hearing the same shit over and over again. Of course there are the exceptions but after all we are ALL people and given the situation most of us would be the same.

I've dated and lived with many GG strippers. I know very well the games and disdain they can have for even their best tippers, but on that forum it went way beyond that. They speak as though anyone who "chases" them is dirt.

[Ms Remy M]

I was reading posts and threads on a t-girl theme forum. I won't name the forum. On it, most had nothing nice to say about any of their clients it seems, and in fact, called them gay, because "they were chasing their dicks" (their words, not mine).
The men who sponsored them, whther photographers, webmasters, friends, pimps possibly, and what have you, were also fairly contemptuos of the girls' patrons and admirers.
I don't see any of the girls openly criticizing admirers and clients here on this forum, but on that one, it was commonplace, and I didn't really read that much of it.

Try looking at it from their perspective. Many transwomen spend their lives trying to achieve their look, fighting tooth and nail for acceptance. Many may suffer one failed relationship after another, especially with 'DL' guys. So as a tgirl to have one guy after another simply lusting after their cock despite the beautiful visage they present, it leads them to feel guys are chasing after their dicks. Again, treating tgirls as equally respected human beings and not just a sexual object would be the best way to avoid this stigmatism. Without more evidence I can only assume it was a particular thread that drew such remarks so it seems like they all feel that way, but I've rarely met a girl who felt that way 100% of the time about 100% of the guys they meet.

[Dixie Normous]

Again, treating tgirls as equally respected human beings and not just a sexual object would be the best way to avoid this stigmatism.

Most of these girls offer sexual services for "roses". Being steeped in the provider business, selling their sexuality, not their brilliance of mind or empathy. If they're selling it, there are buyers. To hold the buyers of their wares in contempt, simply for availing themselves of those services, doesn't make much sense despite your good explanation that should serve as the logical explanation.

[Koanbred]

Hey there Remy757!

I've been to quite a few transgender events as I am a strong advocate of transgender rights. I've been able to live within the loose threads of the T community. Of course, you have the educated T-girls, the financially successful T-girls, and you have the majority of T-girls. I'm only reffering to the 24/7 T-girls, who only know but one way to live___, as women! The overwhelming majority of these girls are the doormats of society. They are viewed as unemployable misfits by society-at-large and therefore, have few areas of employment from which to choose. Usually, you will find them living along the margins of society drawing from social security, welfare, and what they can hussle off of the streets. They become victims of society and are forced to live by the dictates of those who respect them the least.

Ironically enough, these T-girls the ones most denigrated by society who unfortunately are the most resistant to organization, political strategy, and its execution. There are also others who can afford to go to Southern Comfort and belong to Crossdressers Clubs as well, who back-bite, are envy-ridden, and jealous. They therefore, sit back like the women they are, and look for flaws in other T-girls in order to elevate themselves at the expense of other "sisters".

What an exercise in futility when powerful elements of society are working tirelessly to prevent your right to equal employment, housing, and your fundamental right to exist!

I've witnessed many LGBT events, rallies, and protests before. None are so self-hate filled, as the transgender events! It almost reminds me of another group of people who find it difficult to unite for a common cause...

Wish I could have witnessed what happened in Philly, if it was different. That would have been refreshing, indeed!

Love,
Koanbred

[Dixie Normous]

Hey there Remy757!

None are so self-hate filled, as the transgender events!

Sure there are, Koan! That brand of hatred is alive, well, and thriving in many places. Just read through the bash DixieNormous thread for an example!

[4mystuffin]

there are a few girls on this forum (who I am sure don't need to be named) that seem to have the same generalized negative attitude about many of their fans. But like Remy said certain life events can harden their disposition. Remember for every kind, positive "
admirer" or fan there is probably a couple dozen assholes.

[4mystuffin]

PREACH!!! "They become victims of society and are forced to live by the dictates of those who respect them the least."

[Dixie Normous]

Remember for every kind, positive "
admirer" or fan there is probably a couple dozen assholes.

I refuse to believe that there could be any assholes among US!

[Ms Remy M]

Hey there Remy757!

I've been to quite a few transgender events as I am a strong advocate of transgender rights. I've been able to live within the loose threads of the T community. Of course, you have the educated T-girls, the financially successful T-girls, and you have the majority of T-girls. I'm only reffering to the 24/7 T-girls, who only know but one way to live___, as women! The overwhelming majority of these girls are the doormats of society. They are viewed as unemployable misfits by society-at-large and therefore, have few areas of employment from which to choose. Usually, you will find them living along the margins of society drawing from social security, welfare, and what they can hussle off of the streets. They become victims of society and are forced to live by the dictates of those who respect them the least.

Ironically enough, these T-girls the ones most denigrated by society who unfortunately are the most resistant to organization, political strategy, and its execution. There are also others who can afford to go to Southern Comfort and belong to Crossdressers Clubs as well, who back-bite, are envy-ridden, and jealous. They therefore, sit back like the women they are, and look for flaws in other T-girls in order to elevate themselves at the expense of other "sisters".

What an exercise in futility when powerful elements of society are working tirelessly to prevent your right to equal employment, housing, and your fundamental right to exist!

I've witnessed many LGBT events, rallies, and protests before. None are so self-hate filled, as the transgender events! It almost reminds me of another group of people who find it difficult to unite for a common cause...

Wish I could have witnessed what happened in Philly, if it was different. That would have been refreshing, indeed!

Love,
Koanbred

Again, your example is too general for me to respond appropriately, but I will go on the assumption that the transgender events you witnessed where of the Ball/Pageant variety? Those are competitive scenarios were bickering and other negative responses are bound to occur, similar to a sporting event where fans root for their team and boo the others.

What I was referring to was a transgender conference where like-minded individuals got together to discuss employment rights, legal procedures with transitioning (name change, sex change, etc) meeting employers who WILL hire tg's, and many other related seminars. These conferences happen throughout the year and throughout the country. If your only exposure to tg's is through those that escort than that may skew your overall view of transexuals but know that doesn't represent the entire group of transgender people. I will admit that I too have met many tg's that easily fall into the demographic you described above though.

[bigdicki]

I think Dixie Normous has a point on this one. I have been seen as a chaser to most girls I think, but I have been/am a friend/something more to a few. Those few talk about dudes who pay them LONG bread like dogshit. For some reason this is worst when talking about white dudes. Now some of these dudes do just want them for a swinging dick and titties. Hell, I have wanted most for the same. HOWEVER, if these dudes respect them and treat them well why view them with disgust? Hell almost 100% of these girls have some trade that THEY use for dick and when they are not doing that they willfully sell their body for money. It's all good to me, but don't vilify someone because they do what you do. What's that about glass houses and all that?