Above it all.....

[vidman]

wow. i now see why the girls in here, Sasha & Kit, && a few other girls come off to u guys as the bitches, bc they speak their minds && usually speak the truths that soo many guys think they know.... im starting to become done all together with the forum. i have met a few decent ppl on here men & ts alike. but now, this site is wearing thin on my tolerance. this is supposed to be a tolerable site for ts. instead of learning what u think u know u make bias judgments... (PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A GENERAL POSTING, NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE. I JUST READ THE POSTS IN HERE AND IT IS VERY UPSETTING TO SEE. I MEAN GOING BACK TO WHEN I WAS QUESTIONS GUYS INTENT. I GOT HIT HARD WITH THE "GIRL CUT IT OUT, YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON" BUT IM SURE I HAD A PRETTY CLEAR VIEW...

THIS IS OVER™ kILL

BK, I definitely respect your opinion. I think the real issue here is that people are so sensitive about opinions. I've read comments in here before from girls that basically generalize guys and place us all in the same category, but I didn't take it personally because it was an opinion. I've read comments from guys who have said some pretty abrasive things about women. Guess what, it's all opinions and at some point we all have to learn to understand that. For example, I don't necessarily agree with everything that Indy says, but he has an opinion and he's entitled to that. I've read things that Sasha has said about guys, but again, it's her opinion and she's entitled. There is nothing wrong with having dialogue about differences in opinion. The problem comes when the sane/civil dialogue turns into name-calling, cursing and down right disrespect towards others.

By the way, thanks for wishing me well on my test.

[TsBrooklynMattel]

wow. i now see why the girls in here, Sasha & Kit, && a few other girls come off to u guys as the bitches, bc they speak their minds && usually speak the truths that soo many guys think they know.... im starting to become done all together with the forum. i have met a few decent ppl on here men & ts alike. but now, this site is wearing thin on my tolerance. this is supposed to be a tolerable site for ts. instead of learning what u think u know u make bias judgments... (PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A GENERAL POSTING, NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE. I JUST READ THE POSTS IN HERE AND IT IS VERY UPSETTING TO SEE. I MEAN GOING BACK TO WHEN I WAS QUESTIONS GUYS INTENT. I GOT HIT HARD WITH THE "GIRL CUT IT OUT, YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON" BUT IM SURE I HAD A PRETTY CLEAR VIEW...

THIS IS OVER™ kILL

&& i make my comment from actually not talking to guys. Bc i dont sleep with him im a whore && if i do sleep with him he posts it or braggs about it and then tell ppl im a whore.. so in my eyes being a ts.. being in ur fantasy is a lose lose situation. For one.. Being a transsexual isnt something anyone aspires to be as a child. 9times out of 10. the lil transgendered child wanted to be a woman.. && may have become comfortable in age being inbtw. but for me... being transgendered isnt my ultimate goal.. && for me being told i will never be a woman is bogus to me.. There are few things actually differentiating males from females.... Dont get me wrong. i have embraced being a transsexual. i dont have 100,000 to do as i please to hurry my transition along. So for those who have flack to say can go eat shit.. whooooo.. i just got sooo fired up... lol ( ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO ANY PARTICULAR PERSON. BC I COULD YOU R A NON-MOTHER FUCKING FACTOR IN MY LIFE SO U CANT GET A FUCK.) BUT REALLY.. JUST SHARING MY MIND, AS MANY OF SOME OF YOU WHO USE THEIR MINDS DO IN THIS FORUM smh LMAO

[TsBrooklynMattel]

bk, i definitely respect your opinion. I think the real issue here is that people are so sensitive about opinions. I've read comments in here before from girls that basically generalize guys and place us all in the same category, but i didn't take it personally because it was an opinion. I've read comments from guys who have said some pretty abrasive things about women. Guess what, it's all opinions and at some point we all have to learn to understand that. For example, i don't necessarily agree with everything that indy says, but he has an opinion and he's entitled to that. I've read things that sasha has said about guys, but again, it's her opinion and she's entitled. There is nothing wrong with having dialogue about differences in opinion. The problem comes when the sane/civil dialogue turns into name-calling, cursing and down right disrespect towards others.

By the way, thanks for wishing me well on my test.

no problem huneebee, && in my backing i spoke to u about my opinion on yahoo. So u know where i am coming from.. But yeah the name calling gets in the way of understanding.. But so does a bias opinion which u hold to be fact... Thats where altercations breakout... If i were to generalize all ts as whores... U know and no matter if u met me or not. U had an idea of me... That wasnt true.. And u spread the thought that all ts are whores.. Once its mainstream its hard to break out of ppl heads. Same things gays are dealing with now..

[Sasha]

Whoa whoa Sasha, slow ya role ma. I don't have a problem with you at all. I was simply responding to Indy's comments because I do feel what he's saying. I have the right to do so because it's an OPEN forum. Just because I agree with what Indy is saying, doesn't mean that I think Indy is referring to you. I only agree with his ideals on the topic. Doesn't mean I agree with whom he may be speaking of. Chill.

i t was directed to indy but because you wanted to encore it i fed it off your response...to clear that up which it sads to see you agree to bums..like "the great" said ahh i saw ya face before talkin the ear off and than gotta send his broke ass on his way lol hold my drink hoe lol.. and yes imma name call anyone who attempts to insult someones intellegence cause he uses 3 syllable words lol is a fucking parody to me...than am i suppose to take advice from a tranny chaser i think not..and a bottemless hole one at that chille boom...all he talks to is trannies and strippers(low self-estem I see) but like u said just my opinion he is and always will be a loser this is not game...NO you guys this is pathethic....and the more u agree to this vidman the more i think differnt of u..cause u try to play both fences of this and hes a lame for real"ME PERSONALLY I THINK HE WAS BETTER OFF BEING THE TRANSEXUAL THAN ME" MAYBE I SHOULDA BEEN THE MALE TOP THAT WAY HE CAN BE THE BOTTOMLESS TRANNY! THAN HE WONT HAVE TO CHASE DICK HE CAN GET ALL THE DICK SHE WANTS#FAIL

[vidman]

i t was directed to indy but because you wanted to encore it i fed it off your response...to clear that up which it sads to see you agree to bums..like "the great" said ahh i saw ya face before talkin the ear off and than gotta send his broke ass on his way lol hold my drink hoe lol.. and yes imma name call anyone who attempts to insult someones intellegence cause he uses 3 syllable words lol is a fucking parody to me...than am i suppose to take advice from a tranny chaser i think not..and a bottemless hole one at that chille boom...all he talks to is trannies and strippers(low self-estem I see) but like u said just my opinion he is and always will be a loser this is not game...NO you guys this is pathethic....and the more u agree to this vidman the more i think differnt of u..cause u try to play both fences of this and hes a lame for real"ME PERSONALLY I THINK HE WAS BETTER OFF BEING THE TRANSEXUAL THAN ME" MAYBE I SHOULDA BEEN THE MALE TOP THAT WAY HE CAN BE THE BOTTOMLESS TRANNY! THAN HE WONT HAVE TO CHASE DICK HE CAN GET ALL THE DICK SHE WANTS#FAIL

I hear what you're saying SS and you're entitled to how you feel, but keep in mind that there is no law against me agreeing with SOME of what you say and agreeing with SOME of what he says. I see your point as to why you feel the way you do about some men. I also see his point as to why he feels the way he does about some women. I'm not here to make enemies on this site. I'm here to chime in on discussions like this one. Again, I don't agree with EVERYTHING that Indy says, but I'm not in total disagreement with everything he says either. This has nothing to do with me taking sides. I don't take sides when two people that I'm cool with are having a debate. Instead, I try to see the point of both sides. The same goes with you or anyone else on this forum. Great 1 and I are cool too, but if he says something that I disagree with, then I'm gonna speak up about it. I wouldn't speak up in a harsh, disrespectful tone, but I would speak up.

I was a HUGE fan of yours, still a HUGE fan of yours and probably always will be regardless of what you think of me. Got the Transsexual Babysitters #16 and Shemale Police #2 DVDs sitting right here and cant wait for Black Tranny Jizz Jam to be released.

[Sasha]

I hear what you're saying SS and you're entitled to how you feel, but keep in mind that there is no law against me agreeing with SOME of what you say and agreeing with SOME of what he says. I see your point as to why you feel the way you do about some men. I also see his point as to why he feels the way he does about some women. I'm not here to make enemies on this site. I'm here to chime in on discussions like this one. Again, I don't agree with EVERYTHING that Indy says, but I'm not in total disagreement with everything he says either. This has nothing to do with me taking sides. I don't take sides when two people that I'm cool with are having a debate. Instead, I try to see the point of both sides. The same goes with you or anyone else on this forum. Great 1 and I are cool too, but if he says something that I disagree with, then I'm gonna speak up about it. I wouldn't speak up in a harsh, disrespectful tone, but I would speak up.

I was a HUGE fan of yours, still a HUGE fan of yours and probably always will be regardless of what you think of me. Got the Transsexual Babysitters #16 and Shemale Police #2 DVDs sitting right here and cant wait for Black Tranny Jizz Jam to be released.

lol dont make me blush or imma cum lol

[Indy24]

I hear what you're saying SS and you're entitled to how you feel, but keep in mind that there is no law against me agreeing with SOME of what you say and agreeing with SOME of what he says. I see your point as to why you feel the way you do about some men. I also see his point as to why he feels the way he does about some women. I'm not here to make enemies on this site. I'm here to chime in on discussions like this one. Again, I don't agree with EVERYTHING that Indy says, but I'm not in total disagreement with everything he says either. This has nothing to do with me taking sides. I don't take sides when two people that I'm cool with are having a debate. Instead, I try to see the point of both sides. The same goes with you or anyone else on this forum. Great 1 and I are cool too, but if he says something that I disagree with, then I'm gonna speak up about it. I wouldn't speak up in a harsh, disrespectful tone, but I would speak up.

I was a HUGE fan of yours, still a HUGE fan of yours and probably always will be regardless of what you think of me. Got the Transsexual Babysitters #16 and Shemale Police #2 DVDs sitting right here and cant wait for Black Tranny Jizz Jam to be released.

Don't fold to that Trans-retard. Shasha called you a fag for pointing out a true statement. Then outed herself as not being female in the same damn sentence, opposed to most TS who state that they are female on the inside. Yet "she" still insists on calling people homo's with bottomless assholes as if TS pornstars who trick on the side were immune to exact same comments.

And mind you she never did even apologized to you. Hell you actually buy her shit and she still treats you like a dog who doesn't know his place. Now tell me that's not biting the hand that feeds you? Classic case of ego and attitude clouding judgment and I'm the bad Guy here?

Really Brooklyn???

I had contemplated letting this thread go after BK's comment. But the same individuals claiming to be "above it all" just licked their wounds only to come back and regurgitate same lies and hypocrisies over and over again...

Question? Is me liking tranny cock on a site that displays tranny cock wrong in some way? Great 1 and Mrs Strokes here seem to thinks so and they've been here longer than I have...

Get it right! This isn't about "chaser's vs trannies" "Bottom vs Tops"
Or even "well off vs broke"

It's about Pots calling out the kettles...at this point. And I feel that all of us can see that with out playing any side of the fence.

[thegreat1]

I hear what you're saying SS and you're entitled to how you feel, but keep in mind that there is no law against me agreeing with SOME of what you say and agreeing with SOME of what he says. I see your point as to why you feel the way you do about some men. I also see his point as to why he feels the way he does about some women. I'm not here to make enemies on this site. I'm here to chime in on discussions like this one. Again, I don't agree with EVERYTHING that Indy says, but I'm not in total disagreement with everything he says either. This has nothing to do with me taking sides. I don't take sides when two people that I'm cool with are having a debate. Instead, I try to see the point of both sides. The same goes with you or anyone else on this forum. Great 1 and I are cool too, but if he says something that I disagree with, then I'm gonna speak up about it. I wouldn't speak up in a harsh, disrespectful tone, but I would speak up.

I was a HUGE fan of yours, still a HUGE fan of yours and probably always will be regardless of what you think of me. Got the Transsexual Babysitters #16 and Shemale Police #2 DVDs sitting right here and cant wait for Black Tranny Jizz Jam to be released.

Vid, I don't have a problem with ANYONE expressing a dissenting opinion...truth be told, me and sasha don't always have the same view on things BUT she has never stated her disagreement in a slick mouthed tone, nor have I done it to her (I'm sure sasha knows that if I disagree with her on something, I'll let her knowand I KNOW she'll tell me if she disagrees with me lol)

...likewise, neither have you so we're good as well...the key is RESPECT...

Intelligent people can disagree in a respectful fashion and move on...only an ignorant muthafucka feels the need to attack you because they disagree with something you said...that's where mr 'asshole has more traffic than central station on a weekday' comes in...he's unable to do such, which shows his level of intelligence...andd note, its not the 1st time he's trieed some slick, out the side of his mouth shit...I just chose to ignore it until now...sometimes when a bitch gets out of pocket, you have to embarras their ass...that's all

[Indy24]

"Yall don't have to like me."
"Your just mad cause I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be...."
Puffy~

How can you be labeled "The Great1" when you not even a good one?
I mentioned him as one of the good guys in here and the silly bastard had a hissy fit!

These jokers only embarrassed themselves. One doesn't know what type of tranny they are and the other is a confused hypocrite. Who clearly doesn't know when he's out classed.

What part of me fucking the same ts that he drools over is considered embarrassing??? Especially when I'm not the only guy on this site who does it.

Both of you are trying to play me but are alienating yourselves in the process. So choose your words wisely when commenting about "RESPECT"

As for Sasha....it's a wrap for you. I wont comment or quote you again.

Generalizing strippers as chicks with low "self esteem" when all you can say good about yourself is you got money classifies you as the biggest hypocrite in the ts world!

SMH....They need to stick both of your faces under irony.

[vidman]

Vid, I don't have a problem with ANYONE expressing a dissenting opinion...truth be told, me and sasha don't always have the same view on things BUT she has never stated her disagreement in a slick mouthed tone, nor have I done it to her (I'm sure sasha knows that if I disagree with her on something, I'll let her knowand I KNOW she'll tell me if she disagrees with me lol)

...likewise, neither have you so we're good as well...the key is RESPECT...

Intelligent people can disagree in a respectful fashion and move on...only an ignorant muthafucka feels the need to attack you because they disagree with something you said...that's where mr 'asshole has more traffic than central station on a weekday' comes in...he's unable to do such, which shows his level of intelligence...andd note, its not the 1st time he's trieed some slick, out the side of his mouth shit...I just chose to ignore it until now...sometimes when a bitch gets out of pocket, you have to embarras their ass...that's all

....and I totally agree with you to G1. I had a talk with BK last night, after she expressed her discontentment with the forum sentiments. One of the points I made to her was that the problem lies with the way people tend to convey their points of view. As you've stated, G1, we have to be able to express our views without being so offensive. For example, I could have exploded and been disrespectful to Sasha after my name was mentioned, but I didn't because bitterness and uncivilized words won't solve anything. The chief purpose of a FORUM is to discuss issues, but that becomes difficult when people are shouting obscenities at one another.

Listen, the main reason these types of debacles occur is because of the sex industry. People who work in the sex industry have to deal with all kinds of clients with all kinds of bullshit up their sleeves. After a while, I can see how a girl like Sasha can get frustrated with guys, their bullshit and "games." So, I understand Sasha's POV. However, the way her message is conveyed is the issue here. Same thing with Indy. I can understand Indy's argument as well. Indy likes the company of transsexuals and he has no reservation about being submissive with transsexuals. To me, there is nothing wrong with that. For Indy to be ridiculed and talked about for liking what he likes is really, as he stated, "the pot calling the kettle black." After all, Sasha is a Top. So Indy's argument is: "How in the hell are you gonna dog me for liking to be a bottom for a transsexual, when you are a transsexual that likes to top men? So, in essence, you're dogging the same people that's putting money in your pocket."

So, I see both sides of the arguments here. Indy tends to speak with a "matter-of-fact" tone that can be rather offensive, BUT I see his points. Indy has told me before, that I'm soft and I kiss these girls' asses. I expressed to him that I'm just not the type to explode on people in that way, especially a female and why would I dog the very people that I admire? That little conversation that Indy and I had did not turn into a big brawl of negative words. Why? Because it's the way in which we spoke to each other. Words can be very damaging, especially in a forum where there are already controversial topics such as the sex industry where people tend to judge others.

Sasha, being aggressive and dominant by nature, fires back if she feels threatened or offended. I understand her because she works an industry where people judge her for what she does. She's also objectified and is looked at as a sex object because of the work that she does. Not only that, Sasha is also a transsexual and just because she has fans that love her, she still deals with general society that either doesn't agree or can't understand transgenderism. So she deals with BS on all sides. Human nature is to come out swinging when backed into a corner. I definitely understand and feel Sasha's points.

I would like to see an open forum done on Skype or something, where we can all sit down and calmly talk about the stereotypes and mis-perceptions. After speaking with BK last night, I now know what a "tranny chaser" is. Prior to our conversation, I thought that transsexuals basically referred to all guys as tranny chasers. So now I don't feel offended when I hear a girl say that word because I know she's not referring to me. The point is that after a civilized conversation by two people who sit on two seperate sides of the fence, there was a common ground established by which an understanding was attained.

G1, I'm still making my way down to H-Town man. Just give me a little time. We gotta hit Montrose!!!!