Would u agree? Any comments are welcome..

Been away for a bit, been in southern Cali for a while now. Glad to be back on the forum! Ok on to the topic.... Seems like 96% of the beautiful btg's are not the gf or wifey material. I would like to meet a nice well rounded lady without all the other "lifestyle" that most live... Seem like it could never happen.. Lmao, but does anyone else agree? I like to get to know a lady inside and out, feel me... But seems like it would never happen. Feel free to respond negative or positive.. Oh yea,, shout out to the peeps on here!!

welcome home bro.. I feel you on that topic..........i say go for yours & if it doesn't work~out, there's other chances that lie ahead........

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welcome home bro.. I feel you on that topic..........i say go for yours & if it doesn't work~out, there's other chances that lie ahead........

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Thanks cuzz,, and yea that's I been feelin about it just run with it ya know, lol

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Thanks cuzz,, and yea that's I been feelin about it just run with it ya know, lol

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It's possible but not likely. Like it's been said many times on this forum and others, many girls escort either high-profile or on the low-low. They do it to be able to get the 'mones, hair did, stay beautiful, etc. But when they get into that lifestyle it often (not always) becomes a drug to them. They get addicted to the fast money and seeing every guy as an ATM/cash station. They develop untrusting attitudes about guys because they see dudes cheating on their wives and girlfriends to trick off with them. That makes it nearly impossible to have relevant, substantive, deep relationships with most of them because you won't trust them and they will only "trust" you as long as you keep lacing them with cash. So, the probability of failure on the relationship tip is high. That being said, I think there are some good ones out there. You just gotta search pretty hard and be willing to go through some shit to make it work.

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It's possible but not likely. Like it's been said many times on this forum and others, many girls escort either high-profile or on the low-low. They do it to be able to get the 'mones, hair did, stay beautiful, etc. But when they get into that lifestyle it often (not always) becomes a drug to them. They get addicted to the fast money and seeing every guy as an ATM/cash station. They develop untrusting attitudes about guys because they see dudes cheating on their wives and girlfriends to trick off with them. That makes it nearly impossible to have relevant, substantive, deep relationships with most of them because you won't trust them and they will only "trust" you as long as you keep lacing them with cash. So, the probability of failure on the relationship tip is high. That being said, I think there are some good ones out there. You just gotta search pretty hard and be willing to go through some shit to make it work.

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Yea true that... But it's like I'm a single man ya know.. Lol, but it's all good I'll do the dating scene and just be genuine and maybe a lady will see that there are good mean out here who truly are interested in a ltr... So imma just stay on my grind and keep focused on my career and who knows...!!

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It's possible but not likely. Like it's been said many times on this forum and others, many girls escort either high-profile or on the low-low. They do it to be able to get the 'mones, hair did, stay beautiful, etc. But when they get into that lifestyle it often (not always) becomes a drug to them. They get addicted to the fast money and seeing every guy as an ATM/cash station. They develop untrusting attitudes about guys because they see dudes cheating on their wives and girlfriends to trick off with them. That makes it nearly impossible to have relevant, substantive, deep relationships with most of them because you won't trust them and they will only "trust" you as long as you keep lacing them with cash. So, the probability of failure on the relationship tip is high. That being said, I think there are some good ones out there. You just gotta search pretty hard and be willing to go through some shit to make it work.

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preach brother
u covered it all, especially on good girls escorting they see niggas coming to see them day after day while these men have girlfriends, wives, kids etc. so the trust thing is enormous issue

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Been away for a bit, been in southern Cali for a while now. Glad to be back on the forum! Ok on to the topic.... Seems like 96% of the beautiful btg's are not the gf or wifey material. I would like to meet a nice well rounded lady without all the other "lifestyle" that most live... Seem like it could never happen.. Lmao, but does anyone else agree? I like to get to know a lady inside and out, feel me... But seems like it would never happen. Feel free to respond negative or positive.. Oh yea,, shout out to the peeps on here!!

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If you are trying to get into a relationship with a ts, there are plenty of options, try hitting the clubs or other 'everyday shopping' locations about town. Talking to them on AFF (Adult Friend Finder) and/or BGC (Black Gay Chat), are online options that goes around the escort ads. You'll probably want to avoid trying to date an escort, not to say a successful relationship can't come from being with an escort. I have dated a few escorts (did not meet them in a p4p fashion, but through mutual friends) and our reasons for breaking up never had anything to do with escorting, but you do have to have a certain frame of mind and trust to handle your girl escorting.

There are lots of girls that separate themselves from the 'lifestyle' and do all they can to assimilate into society. I have a girl up in DC that I was talking to for a while that lives her own life, no escorting, plays xbox, goes to school and works a 9-5, supplemented with some webcam stuff, but I really don't think long-distance relationships work personally (by product of being a Military Brat). :) I've met a great deal of girls that would never escort and live close to what most consider 'regular' lives. So it's certainly possible for you to find happiness out there with a 'ts', just like with a 'gg' you just have to play the field and try. BTW, the girl I'm currently trying to 'whoo' is an escort, is about her business, with good head on her shoulders, so I don't consider the profession itself to be a determent on a potential relationship, though a variety of factors have to fit together as well.

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If you are trying to get into a relationship with a ts, there are plenty of options, try hitting the clubs or other 'everyday shopping' locations about town. Talking to them on AFF (Adult Friend Finder) and/or BGC (Black Gay Chat), are online options that goes around the escort ads. You'll probably want to avoid trying to date an escort, not to say a successful relationship can't come from being with an escort. I have dated a few escorts (did not meet them in a p4p fashion, but through mutual friends) and our reasons for breaking up never had anything to do with escorting, but you do have to have a certain frame of mind and trust to handle your girl escorting.

There are lots of girls that separate themselves from the 'lifestyle' and do all they can to assimilate into society. I have a girl up in DC that I was talking to for a while that lives her own life, no escorting, plays xbox, goes to school and works a 9-5, supplemented with some webcam stuff, but I really don't think long-distance relationships work personally (by product of being a Military Brat). :) I've met a great deal of girls that would never escort and live close to what most consider 'regular' lives. So it's certainly possible for you to find happiness out there with a 'ts', just like with a 'gg' you just have to play the field and try. BTW, the girl I'm currently trying to 'whoo' is an escort, is about her business, with good head on her shoulders, so I don't consider the profession itself to be a determent on a potential relationship, though a variety of factors have to fit together as well.

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I absolutely agree Remy. However, a man has a hard time on sites like BGC as well. Let's not forget about the "tranny chaser" mentality that these girls have developed. If you pay attention to websites like BGC, you will see that the girls harbour a huge "tranny chaser" attitude about us. It really upsets me because transsexuals put themselves in a no-win situation. Everytime there's a window of opportunity for men and girls to find common ground to establish relationships, the girls always find some kind of way to tear it down. I've approached a girl in a local grocery store here in Atlanta and the first thing that came out of her mouth was, "for you to know that I'm a transsexual, you must be a tranny chaser." I was like, "WHAT!!" I was thinking to myself, 'first of all, you're not that passable. Any 10 year old can figure you out.' In conclusion, I think that the girls have begun to label all guys as "no good tranny chasers" regardless of the platform which you meet. My greatest success with transsexuals is when I befriend them before they blow up. Get with them before they get the breast implants and hormone treatments. You'll have to babysit and nurture for a minute, but the reward is well worth the time spent. I am "friends" with a few girls that guys salivate over and I feel that's the case because I knew them before they became stars. This has been my most successful strategy.

Good luck! Hope this helps!!

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I absolutely agree Remy. However, a man has a hard time on sites like BGC as well. Let's not forget about the "tranny chaser" mentality that these girls have developed. If you pay attention to websites like BGC, you will see that the girls harbour a huge "tranny chaser" attitude about us. It really upsets me because transsexuals put themselves in a no-win situation. Everytime there's a window of opportunity for men and girls to find common ground to establish relationships, the girls always find some kind of way to tear it down. I've approached a girl in a local grocery store here in Atlanta and the first thing that came out of her mouth was, "for you to know that I'm a transsexual, you must be a tranny chaser." I was like, "WHAT!!" I was thinking to myself, 'first of all, you're not that passable. Any 10 year old can figure you out.' In conclusion, I think that the girls have begun to label all guys as "no good tranny chasers" regardless of the platform which you meet. My greatest success with transsexuals is when I befriend them before they blow up. Get with them before they get the breast implants and hormone treatments. You'll have to babysit and nurture for a minute, but the reward is well worth the time spent. I am "friends" with a few girls that guys salivate over and I feel that's the case because I knew them before they became stars. This has been my most successful strategy.

Good luck! Hope this helps!!

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Sorry OP, a lil off topic.

Yeah I agree with you vidman, I can honestly say, I've never hooked up with a BTG that has attained star status that I didn't already know beforehand. Although one girl (frequently mentioned here, but doesnt pose nude) in particular use to give me the opportunity and I just turned down because at that moment when she 'wanted to get dicked down' I had more pressing matters, that was my fuck up.

If she's been or is an escort, or even hangs around with working girls, you are going to have a completely different mentality to deal with and it's not something I'd get into trying to date one of those girls.
There are however, many many girls that aren't escorting or even want to be part of the TS scene, many living normal lives or who haven't even fully came out yet but are trying to.
I've used AFF in the past and had great times with girls from there as well as yahoo personals (not as good as it used to be) and other dating places. You really have to make a bit of an effort not only to find these girls but not to come onto them like a tranny chaser. Be prepared to date them, take them to dinner, movies, walks and get to know them - if that's what your looking for!
If you just want to pop your fetish ... pay for an escort.

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If she's been or is an escort, or even hangs around with working girls, you are going to have a completely different mentality to deal with and it's not something I'd get into trying to date one of those girls.
There are however, many many girls that aren't escorting or even want to be part of the TS scene, many living normal lives or who haven't even fully came out yet but are trying to.
I've used AFF in the past and had great times with girls from there as well as yahoo personals (not as good as it used to be) and other dating places. You really have to make a bit of an effort not only to find these girls but not to come onto them like a tranny chaser. Be prepared to date them, take them to dinner, movies, walks and get to know them - if that's what your looking for!
If you just want to pop your fetish ... pay for an escort.

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Exactly Seanchai! Well said. You get out of it what you put into it.

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Sorry OP, a lil off topic.

Yeah I agree with you vidman, I can honestly say, I've never hooked up with a BTG that has attained star status that I didn't already know beforehand. Although one girl (frequently mentioned here, but doesnt pose nude) in particular use to give me the opportunity and I just turned down because at that moment when she 'wanted to get dicked down' I had more pressing matters, that was my fuck up.

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Hey, I totally understand Remy. I can get with one or two popular girls that are on this site right now, but for whatever the reason, fate hasn't linked our paths yet. I don't force it if it doesn't naturally and comfortably fit. (no pun intended) LOL!!!!

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Originally Posted by bigdicki

It's possible but not likely. Like it's been said many times on this forum and others, many girls escort either high-profile or on the low-low. They do it to be able to get the 'mones, hair did, stay beautiful, etc. But when they get into that lifestyle it often (not always) becomes a drug to them. They get addicted to the fast money and seeing every guy as an ATM/cash station. They develop untrusting attitudes about guys because they see dudes cheating on their wives and girlfriends to trick off with them. That makes it nearly impossible to have relevant, substantive, deep relationships with most of them because you won't trust them and they will only "trust" you as long as you keep lacing them with cash. So, the probability of failure on the relationship tip is high. That being said, I think there are some good ones out there. You just gotta search pretty hard and be willing to go through some shit to make it work.

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I've said it before, but I feel it bears repeating - "It depends on where the
woman, is in life, and her method of getting to her goals".

Like Kool Moe Dee said "I go to work".

I realized along time ago the key to a stable transition, and didn't just live in
the now, and get caught up on fast money, not that I haven't had my
dalliances.

My transition issues have been over for decades, I'm not worried about how
I will pay for HRT, breast augmentation, Silicon, electro, FFS, or GRS, all of
those things have been accomplished and are behind me.

I also am not bitter or distrustful of men, nor feel that they only want to use
me as a fetish object, or that they can't or won't commit. I have been in long
term, stable relationships, and know first-hand that they are possible.

And no, I am not on 'the scene", you will not see me in a tranny or
gay bar, Eros, AFF, or Craigslist.

You may see me in your church, at the front of a classroom, in a bookstore,
library, at work, or somewhere getting my "shop on".

You may see me here, and on a few other sites because I'm trying to pull
other women's coats as to how they too can accomplish the goals that they
desire, and for the men to know and realize that there are many of us living
normal, mainstream lives.

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I've said it before, but I feel it bears repeating - "It depends on where the
woman, is in life, and her method of getting to her goals".

Like Kool Moe Dee said "I go to work".

I realized along time ago the key to a stable transition, and didn't just live in
the now, and get caught up on fast money, not that I haven't had my
dalliances.

My transition issues have been over for decades, I'm not worried about how
I will pay for HRT, breast augmentation, Silicon, electro, FFS, or GRS, all of
those things have been accomplished and are behind me.

I also am not bitter or distrustful of men, nor feel that they only want to use
me as a fetish object, or that they can't or won't commit. I have been in long
term, stable relationships, and know first-hand that they are possible.

And no, I am not on 'the scene", you will not see me in a tranny or
gay bar, Eros, AFF, or Craigslist.

You may see me in your church, at the front of a classroom, in a bookstore,
library, at work, or somewhere getting my "shop on".

You may see me here, and on a few other sites because I'm trying to pull
other women's coats as to how they too can accomplish the goals that they
desire, and for the men to know and realize that there are many of us living
normal, mainstream lives.

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well said!

I appreciate the candid, common sense that this thread offers. Thank you all for sharing...


I still got hope!

Wow, awsome info peepz... Yea I wasn't lookin to really tryin to settle with a girl that escorts, couldn't deal with it to be honest.. But I do respect the hustle so that's why I just step back from that issue. It is hard to find a regular down home classy girl. And yea I have a few profiles on ts dating sites. I have meet a few cool and honest ladys. BUT!!! They tend to be all they way in Tim buk too!!!! Lmao, not literatelly but y'all know what I mean. But anyways seems I touched a pretty good issue to speak about. Thanks for all responses!!!!! One love y'all

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Originally Posted by peggygee

I've said it before, but I feel it bears repeating - "It depends on where the
woman, is in life, and her method of getting to her goals".

Like Kool Moe Dee said "I go to work".

I realized along time ago the key to a stable transition, and didn't just live in
the now, and get caught up on fast money, not that I haven't had my
dalliances.

My transition issues have been over for decades, I'm not worried about how
I will pay for HRT, breast augmentation, Silicon, electro, FFS, or GRS, all of
those things have been accomplished and are behind me.

I also am not bitter or distrustful of men, nor feel that they only want to use
me as a fetish object, or that they can't or won't commit. I have been in long
term, stable relationships, and know first-hand that they are possible.

And no, I am not on 'the scene", you will not see me in a tranny or
gay bar, Eros, AFF, or Craigslist.

You may see me in your church, at the front of a classroom, in a bookstore,
library, at work, or somewhere getting my "shop on".

You may see me here, and on a few other sites because I'm trying to pull
other women's coats as to how they too can accomplish the goals that they
desire, and for the men to know and realize that there are many of us living
normal, mainstream lives.

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Bravo! You are always impressive with your intelligent responses. However, real talk, you are the exception and not the rule.

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Bravo! You are always impressive with your intelligent responses. However, real talk, you are the exception and not the rule.

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Remy, big, thank you both for your kind comments, but I don't really feel
that I am an enigma, the only woman like myself, as I do know quite a few
others, but they most def aren't on the scene, so it might be harder to
encounter them.

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Remy, big, thank you both for your kind comments, but I don't really feel
that I am an enigma, the only woman like myself, as I do know quite a few
others, but they most def aren't on the scene, so it might be harder to
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I totally agree.

To find a REAL man who will treat me like a REAL woman is rare to non-exsistant.
How would you know a girl like me is not wife material?
How many of you guys take ts out to the movies at the mall on a saturday afternoon when the mall is crowded and are secure enough in YOURSELVES to do that.
I'm Puerto Rican, how many of you guys are man enough to take me to the salsa club, with is STRAIGHT, dance with me, kiss and cuddle like all the other couples? Or maybe go with me to the fest, play silly games and go on dumb ass rides for the laughs and fun?
Or I live in Chicago, would you go with me to Navy Peer to watch the fireworks?? Or take me to taste of Chicago?
Or with you to one of YOUR familys functions.
Fuck bitching and moaning about ts escort this and ts porn star that.
YOU MEN are the reason we are the way we are. You made us this way now you want to bitch and moan??
SFU and treat us like woman and then you will get a ts like me to be wifey.
Oh yea and we would respect you for breaking the mold and being a black man who is a REAL man and can date and see us as WOMAN not ts!

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To find a REAL man who will treat me like a REAL woman is rare to non-exsistant.
How would you know a girl like me is not wife material?
How many of you guys take ts out to the movies at the mall on a saturday afternoon when the mall is crowded and are secure enough in YOURSELVES to do that.
I'm Puerto Rican, how many of you guys are man enough to take me to the salsa club, with is STRAIGHT, dance with me, kiss and cuddle like all the other couples? Or maybe go with me to the fest, play silly games and go on dumb ass rides for the laughs and fun?
Or I live in Chicago, would you go with me to Navy Peer to watch the fireworks?? Or take me to taste of Chicago?
Or with you to one of YOUR familys functions.
Fuck bitching and moaning about ts escort this and ts porn star that.
YOU MEN are the reason we are the way we are. You made us this way now you want to bitch and moan??
SFU and treat us like woman and then you will get a ts like me to be wifey.
Oh yea and we would respect you for breaking the mold and being a black man who is a REAL man and can date and see us as WOMAN not ts!

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and mostly some guys are afraid to take risk...cuz me myself aint afraid to take a nice ts out to the movies or a nice outing to the park which i have went out with a ts and not afraid to take them out cuz in my mind they are normal human beings like everyone else not creatures we look down on

Unlike gay men most tgirls rely on sex with men to make a living. Yeah, I know some go to nail school but lets face it.. you dont see many tgirl lawyers. Just look around at work. How many tgirls do you see? With that said Its almost impossible for a tgirl to concentrate on a having a relationship.
Those that are in a relationship are really popular (Porn stars). Yeah I heard some on the post mention trust in men as a factor..but its deeper than that. Women dont trust men either but most would be in a relationhsip if given the chance.

Lets face it... a relationship with a tgirl is not relalistic..not long term anyway. Most guys who date tgirls live straight lives. They date tgirs because they look like women but have something extra. Even if it was acceptable most tgirls dont look good after a certain age, and a tgirls ages alot quicker than your avarage women. This is not a dish on tgirls but a fact.

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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

To find a REAL man who will treat me like a REAL woman is rare to non-exsistant.
How would you know a girl like me is not wife material?
How many of you guys take ts out to the movies at the mall on a saturday afternoon when the mall is crowded and are secure enough in YOURSELVES to do that.
I'm Puerto Rican, how many of you guys are man enough to take me to the salsa club, with is STRAIGHT, dance with me, kiss and cuddle like all the other couples? Or maybe go with me to the fest, play silly games and go on dumb ass rides for the laughs and fun?
Or I live in Chicago, would you go with me to Navy Peer to watch the fireworks?? Or take me to taste of Chicago?
Or with you to one of YOUR familys functions.
Fuck bitching and moaning about ts escort this and ts porn star that.
YOU MEN are the reason we are the way we are. You made us this way now you want to bitch and moan??
SFU and treat us like woman and then you will get a ts like me to be wifey.
Oh yea and we would respect you for breaking the mold and being a black man who is a REAL man and can date and see us as WOMAN not ts!

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I totally feel you, but honestly I rarely treat ANYONE like that. Yes, I'll go out grab some food. We may go to the movies, but I'm not going to the club with broads (gg or tg) and I'm not going walking on Navy Pier. That's just not me. I figure if I'm going to the club, which rare nowadays, I'm looking to catch a fish not bring some fish to the pond. And as far as the other things, I'm just not into the lovey-dovey things. That doesn't mean I'm not a good dude and there are many dudes out there like me. However, I can understand a woman (tg or gg) wanting those things so bad that she won't settle for less. I guess thats why I'm single with jump-offs! :cool:

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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

To find a REAL man who will treat me like a REAL woman is rare to non-exsistant.
How would you know a girl like me is not wife material?
How many of you guys take ts out to the movies at the mall on a saturday afternoon when the mall is crowded and are secure enough in YOURSELVES to do that.
I'm Puerto Rican, how many of you guys are man enough to take me to the salsa club, with is STRAIGHT, dance with me, kiss and cuddle like all the other couples? Or maybe go with me to the fest, play silly games and go on dumb ass rides for the laughs and fun?
Or I live in Chicago, would you go with me to Navy Peer to watch the fireworks?? Or take me to taste of Chicago?
Or with you to one of YOUR familys functions.
Fuck bitching and moaning about ts escort this and ts porn star that.
YOU MEN are the reason we are the way we are. You made us this way now you want to bitch and moan??
SFU and treat us like woman and then you will get a ts like me to be wifey.
Oh yea and we would respect you for breaking the mold and being a black man who is a REAL man and can date and see us as WOMAN not ts!

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You raise some good points there as well Vanessa, but shouldn't it be up to the ladies to not be some jump off and put the dudes in their place by demanding respect, no ifs, ands or buts about it.

I realize life isn't that clear cut but a lot of dudes couldn't do what they do if the ladies didn't tolerate it as well.

Like you said some dudes are shook to be in public, or take the girls to their family or whatever, but they still wanna get that sexing in the sheets.

I don't know why any lady would want to be with any dude who wouldn't want his family to know about her or do things in the regular public that couples do as you mentioned.

I think the ladies have way more power to demand more than casual hookups from a guy and it starts with basic respect.

Oh and as for myself Vanessa, I'm the kind of brotha that don't give a fuck what people think. Its my life, I live, love then I die and I sure as heck am not going to be worried about other folks.

If I like you we're going to be doing shit together and that includes regular things in public.

I'm hella confident in myself and go for what I want, always have been, always will be.