Tgirl Scenes Have Too Little Focus On The Ass

The only sort of shemale scene that I know going in will have a huge attention to the ass would be a masturbation scene with a dildo. But some of those scenes have the tgirl use the dildo in the missionary position with no other shots!

So many masturbation scenes are say 12 minutes, only about 1 minute of the video contains the tgirl bending over with their ass facing the camera or playing with their ass. The rest of the video is them jacking off.

The style of video that I like least is the tgirl and male video. Those videos have anal, but the majority of the video is spent doing some combination of oral sex or hand jobs.

There needs to be more booty centric shemale porn.

probably because guys care more about cock then they do about ass. Sad truth.

yep i kno what you mean

One reason I never look at mainstream porno, just amateur, I'M 100% ABOUT THE ASS!!!

I think the entire body of a transsexual is sexy. I love that ass, yes I do. But I also love lookin at the dick! I also love lookin at the tits! I love lookin at sexy hips and nice thighs too! But what I like the most about a transsexual is one who has beautiful, soft toes and feet. Now that is hard to find. A transsexual with pretty toes and shapely legs gets my vote everytime. I'll take that over a phat ass and a nice dick. Sorry. Might be a lil strange but that's me. We all like what we like. So Kitty, I really don't understand when you say that it's a "sad truth" that men like a girl's dick. That's part of what makes you a transsexual. That's part of the attraction. To some guys, the dick might not be the main attraction and to others, the dick just might be the main attraction. I don't see anything wrong with it either way.

I dont wanna speak for other girls, btu me personally, when im having sex with a guy I dont really like all this attention to my penis. Wanting to suck it wanting to jerk it wanting to bend over and get fucked by it. Honestly some of these things make me a little sick.

Since ive started performing or tgirl cams, ive realized that men really only care about cock. They dont care about tits, they dont care about ass all they want is cock. Cock cock cock cock. And while i understand thats what makes me trans, there's a hell of a lot more to me than a cock. And i sometimes feel demeaned when i'm narrowed down to that.

Maybe it's becuase I am TRULY a heterosexual (or heteronormative) girl. Where I believe men penetrate and women are penetrated. The only time i get satisfaction out of broadcasting and highlighting my dick is when im getting paid to do it. If you're payin me you can salivate all yo want. But if ou're trying to date me....if you're fixated on my cock i'll honestly start to see you as..well... less of a man. And maybe tht's wrong but... i cna't help but feel that way. Its my sexuality and preference. And in all honesty, this isnt from lack of try or experience. I've fulflled all of my sexual fantasies to date and honestly when i tried topping it just make me little sick.



I also think it sad because these men who watch me and beg for cock will swear up and down that they are heterosexual. And i just....aye...if i weren't lazy i'd look up that video on WSHH where that trannsexual is talking to her trick and he's trying to convince her that hes straight

Now Kitty, you know you my girl and you definitely know how I feel about yo sexy ass and I completely see your point. However, I think that people are too judgemental. We don't live in a world where things have to be concrete. We live in a world where the letter a can take on the "long a" sound, the "short a" sound or the "ah" sound. If that weren't the case, then the english language would be very limited, hence communication as well. You are a perfect example of that. You were born a man, anatomically. You feel that you have been a woman since birth, a woman born with male anatomy. Now, lets just suppose for the sake of supposing that someone told you that they thought you were less of a woman because you have a penis. What if someone said that you were "nasty" for being a man and trying to impersonate a woman. What if someone threatened you just because you are who you are or you like what you like. I think that would be pretty judgemental and low. This is the same thing you're doing to men that happen to be attracted to a girl's penis. Not saying that you're wrong for your opinion, but sometimes it's best to just let it be an opinion and not voice your disdain publically, and try to understand why. Some people are very fragile and insecure about their sexuality. You just might be someone's therapeutic outlet. I have tremendous respect for transsexuals because you all deal with some of the examples I mentioned a few sentences ago. I just think that people should learn to accept people for who they are and what they like. Again, not saying you should partake of or agree with what's going on, but just accept that people are individuals. Ya know?

No no no

Dont get me wrong, if you like tranny cock in all of your holes, i have nothing against that at all. BUT i am not attracted to men who feel that way. That's my personal feelings and well, it's prevented me from dating some guys but HEY I like men who can get off by fucking the shit out of me and getting some bomb ass head. When I tell a guy i'm not into being a top and bending him over and ect ect nd he reacts like it's a deal breaker, i simply have to question his sexuality and comfort with his own gender and sexuality. Because to me, most heternormtive men get off just fine by putting their dick into stuff.

but that's how i feel and i can recognize that ive got a rigid view of sexuality. but hey, THAT'S ME. I like what i like and i like it when men are secure enough in their masculinity to be.... men. That' just how i feel. I'm not saying that your interest makes me feel differently about you, but im always really turned off when guys are more concerned with cock then they are ass tits and thighs

because i guess the way i see it...if you like cock go mess with a dude.


And you should know by now tha ti have diarrhea o the mouth. :)

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Originally Posted by DarylWashington

One reason I never look at mainstream porno, just amateur, I'M 100% ABOUT THE ASS!!!

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Now that's what I'm talking about.

I've argued (and constructively criticised and pleaded and begged etc) for years now that TS Porn is missing a big trick by catering so slavishly and unimaginatively to the COCK!-COCK!-COCK! obsessed market.

Maybe I'm a bit of a freak... but I just don't see why TS Porn producers make TS Porn EXACTLY like str8 porn........... but the Woman has a dick.

I ask such producers this question: What is the bigger market - str8 guys who fantasize about drilling a TS babe's ass, or str8 guys who fantasize about getting their ass drilled by a TS babe's cock?

I am sure the former market is significantly larger than the latter.

But most sites wont realise this potential because they "scare" off this market by FIXATING on TS cock, even to the extent that the sex scenes show some skinny assed hairy guy getting drilled out by some TS babe.

These 2 markets are actually quite distinct!.. They simply don't mix!! Just like porn involving ordinary women wearing strap-on dildos and fucking guys doesn't mix with conventional str8 porn..... These are 2 distinct markets!...

Just because a TS Model is the common denominator it doesn't mean us guys are happy with everything served to us.... Obviously the cock-fixators are happy cos they are so incredibly well catered for.... But the rest of us - who feel that a TS Woman is more than a dick with a babe attached - just have to put up with what we get!...

Its most frustrating of all when the TS Model is so gloriously femme (with puppy phat hips n ass) and yet the camera only serves us 30 seconds of doggy/missionary postition, before returning to the standard painting-by-numbers cock-stroking scene, which, unintentionally, often reveals the utter boredom of the Model as she switches off and simply goes through her strokes like she's on some kinda production line lol

Thankfully this is happening less and less, particularly with vids supplied by the wonderful Remy and Buddy Wood... But there is still a common culture of only supplying a cursory 45 seconds approx of doggy/missionary shots, giving us crumbs off the table.

My contention is this....

Ordinary str8 porn with ordinary Women is a busted flush; it's peaked, it's boomed, it's flattened out.....

Meanwhile....

The first TS Porn producers who actively cater for str8-guys-with-a-twist, by employing ultra-femme TS Models and making conventional porn where "the girl is the girl and the boy is the boy", will tap into a ready and waiting market and consequently reap HUGE rewards.

Let me put it like this: I love Hazel Tucker... LOVE her, LOVE her work... If a producer supplies me with scenes of Hazel being ultra femme and seducing some lucky guy before he gets to slide his cock in her, then I will buy this product ALL day EVERY day...... BUT, if a producer supplies a scene involving Hazel drilling a guy... then I wouldn't even watch it for free.... I literally wouln't even bother! Just like I don't bother watching ordinary women wearing strap-ons fuck guys - its exactly the same thing in my mind.

Thankfully, TS Porn producers are moving towards this str8 market, slowly but surely, but still there's no one taking the "gamble" of really reaching out to us guys who are into GIVING anal sex, not RECEIVING it... I stick around here, and other grooby sites, because they provide the best content, BUT, I have a weekly task of sifting through a lot of content that doesn't cater for me before I find the cherries I want to pick....

And of course, I regularly hop on and off... The first site that actively caters for me by making str8 porn with TS Models will have my undivided loyalty/$$$s all year round!

And before anyone misinterprets my comments and seeks to twist them into some macho-man anti-gay rant, while simultaneously indulging in their own wonderful open-minded liberal credentials, let me say this:

I like to play with TS cock
I like to suck TS cock
I just dont like or want TS cock, or anything else, in my ass

SIMPLES!

There's nothing political about this... I'm not a sexual maverick with an incredibly specific fetishistic taste (although this is sometimes how TS sites make me feel by catering almost exclusively to such a niche market of cock-worshippers)...

I'm just a guy who's into Femme in all it's human forms, particularly the intensely feminine seductive powers of humans who dont take their femininity for granted, and who, perhaps, have had to work hard to realise and enjoy their true femme nature... Such transition represents TRUE blossoming power, so that we can enjoy ever more the flower....

It is certainly true, is it not, that more and more ordinary Women are disinclined to flex their feminine prowess and enjoy their femininity.... It's as if there's a crisis in femininity among ordinary Women... Or perhaps ordinary Women feel that to use their femme powers represents "selling out" to men lol! (Curiously, there seems to have been a rise in recent years of TS Women who seem intent on sheepishly following this "feminist" phase of ordinary Women, taking on a dykey tom-boy image and contriving to look down on the desires of men lol)

God bless TS Women and Models who enjoy their femininity in such a cold, grey, male world!... They are doing a great job.... But where oh where are the producers who realise that the TS market is not exclusively populated by men who are OB-FUCKING-SESSED with Tranny cock ("how big is she" "how thick is her cock" "how long is her cock" "how hard is her cock" "how long can she stay hard for" "can she cum" "can she cum twice"... yadda yadda ya... B-O-R-I-N-G!!!!!!!!)

There will ALWAYS be a place for one-dimensional TS Porn that literally REVOLVES around TS cock, where the Model is almost incidental to the shoot, but.......

.....Remy, Buddy, and any other budding producers out there.... whoever breaks the Tranny mold and steps - no, leaps - into the void will enjoy an untapped market!

I've always had to sigh and put up with sub-standard TS Porn that meant nothing to me, but have always come back for more simply because I OBVIOUSLY have a thing for TS Women, and have no other choice...

I've purchased soooo much TS Porn on VHS, DVD and websites that did nothing for me, just to capture the rare occassion when the producer actually got it right and shot the Model in the way that stirred my loins.

To enjoy my intense taste for ultra femme TS Women I have had no choice but to do this....

BUT,

as soon as the TS sites come into being that look out for me and my (relatively) simple tastes, then they, and only they, will have my custom.

TS Porn shot as conventional str8 porn... it's not asking for much, is it?

God bless the TS Girls and Women,

SHAUN xx

"A TS Model is more than a cock with a babe attached" - ME

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Originally Posted by vidman

You were born a man, anatomically.

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Are you sure of this thinking?

Can it really be said that anyone was "... born a man"?

Was she even born a "boy"?

She was born with a penis, we can agree on that, I think?...

The rest is growth and evolution, and a suitable climate to allow such flowering as the spirit desires.

SHAUN

"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do." - WILLIAM BLAKE

Too long to quote, but I agree with kitty and shaun...I'm a strict top...I DO NOT wannna see some dude sucking a dick or getting banged...NOT my thing...give me what shaun said WITH BLACK TGIRLS and I'm good ALL day

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

No no no

Because to me, most heternormtive men get off just fine by putting their dick into stuff.

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Heehee.... never a truer word spoken!

SHAUN xx

So here is my question......

Why are "heteronormative" men on this site looking at transsexuals? At some point, you will have to see a penis if you're enjoying the tgirl model pictures. Biological women have all the ass a heteronormative man needs. Why are these men on a transsexual site? Don't get me wrong....I love biological women, but I also like transsexual women. (Hell, I just went to the video store last night and rented Booty Talk volumes 90 and 92. You "straight" guys should know exactly that Booty Talk is). I like looking at a nice femme body with a beautiful ass and a vagina attached, like Meagan Good. Likewise, I like looking at a nice femme body with a beautiful ass and a penis attached, like Sheeba. Am I fooling myself to think that biological women and transsexual women are the same? Maybe emotionally, they are the same. Chemically and physically, they are quite different from one another. Ms. Kitty, although beautiful, astoundingly feminine and totally sexy, has a very large penis between her legs. Ms. Kitty, again just as beautiful and sexy as any biological female, has a tad bit more testosterone flowing through her blood than a biological woman. May have slightly more estrogen than the average man but all-in-all, her body, chemically, imitates closely to that of a man, not a biowoman. My point is: there is a reason we're here looking at these gorgeous "girls," otherwise we would be on biofemale sites not this one. Not saying that the reason we're here is the penis factor only, but the total package. The fact that a penis is envolved is somewhat intriguing. Now the degree at which it intrigues each of us might be different but, nevertheless, we like that extra 5-10 inches of flesh on a "woman." There's no shame in my game. I like lookin at that nice soft ass, nice sexy titties (if she has some) and yes, I like lookin at that package in the front too.

Well i'm not going to rant, i'll try hard not to but

"you were born a man"

"girls"

"ass with a dick"

"you may have a bit more estrogen than a man but"

The list goes on. I dont think I need to tell you that these things are insensitive. And to be frank it's beliefs like these that bother me about cock obessed tranny chasers. You get off on the fact that we used to be men. Now, i can only speak for myself and my own sexuality. I'll tell you right now if a man doesn't consider himself at the very least heteronormative, then I dont think I'll be sleeping with him.. thats just me. To me personally, an obsession with cock connotes an attraction to men. I have validated cock obsessions for a while with "oh it's like a pussy" or "oh gurl dat a feminine cock". Wrong.

My issue is when it men dont even care about anything aside from cock. Because I dunno....if when we go into the bedroom and the first thing you do i bend over or get on your knees, pretty much nothing turns me off more than that. i've had plenty of guys who didn't want to date me because i woldnt fuck them or i wouldnt let them suck me off. Now maybe it's because I like men a bit on the heteronormative side but in MY opinion... when i give you this ass and this mouth and your reaction is "what about the cock" all i can think is "nigga you wastin my mah fucking time git you a man" and i dont even speak like that, but my internal monolouge is a ghetto girl named shaquanda.

It just seems to me cock obsessed guys would get off more on porn featuring men or havving sex with men. Femme boys panty boys crossdressers. I know that i certainly dont speak for everyone and my sexuality isnt super super common but i can't help but feel that men attracted to women enjoy at least the very minimum of heterosexual pleasures... such as my bomb ass award winning head and my tight tight ass (unless you're big, you'll just get frustrated... tight is not a euphemism.)

Anywhooooo. Now, if you wanna jerk off together, let's go. You wanna stroke it a little when we make out, lets do it. lol


I think the industry will remain dick centric because, well we're transsexuals. That's what different about us and you can make money off of exploiting our "differences". Simple as that. Hell, a requirement for working with Grooby is being willing and able to stroke your cock.

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Originally Posted by vidman

May have slightly more estrogen than the average man but all-in-all, her body, chemically, imitates closely to that of a man, not a biowoman.

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On what planet does her body "...imitate closely to that of a man"???

I realize you're talking "chemically", but surely neither of us is privvy to her chemical make up, much less her chemical "ancestry", which is probably more alive and pertinent....

No one needs to talk of chemistry, we're dealing with loins here, and sexual responses as honest and old as the hills.

Look... take a pen and draw an outline around a saucepan lid: we call this a "circle", right?... now draw an outline around a cd case: we call this a "square", right... A circle and a square, see them?

Now......

.....Draw a circle as big as your head, and then, somewhere on the line of that circle - anywhere you like - draw a tiny little square, about half the size of your smallest fingernail....

Now... Do you see it... a tiny weeny lil itsy-bitsy square on a big circle: so, what do we now call this big circle with a tiny square?...

... Are you telling me that we should call it a square?...

Does it look like a square?....No

Does it have the properties of a square?....No

Dude, I'm not splitting hairs... but clearly it's much more of a circle than a square, right?

And in my mind, depending on how pleasing and regular and proportionate the curves are, I'd still call it a circle... a regular old circle.

Or to put it another way: I like the zing I get from citrus fruit... sometimes I like it from oranges... other times I like it from clementines... It makes no difference to me; cos I like CITRUS.

SHAUN

"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do" - WILLIAM BLAKE

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

Hell, a requirement for working with Grooby is being willing and able to stroke your cock.

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That's all well and fine and no problem.. the problem is when 91% of the vids contain this dick-centric vibe...

If genetic Woman porn contained 91% of babes just lying back and stroking their clitoris I'd get bored of that too! lol

SHAUN xxx

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Originally Posted by SHAUN

That's all well and fine and no problem.. the problem is when 91% of the vids contain this dick-centric vibe...

If genetic Woman porn contained 91% of babes just lying back and stroking their clitoris I'd get bored of that too! lol

SHAUN xxx

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Thats a great point.

yall in this bitch writing paragraphs

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

Well i'm not going to rant, i'll try hard not to but

"you were born a man"

"girls"

"ass with a dick"

"you may have a bit more estrogen than a man but"

The list goes on. I dont think I need to tell you that these things are insensitive. And to be frank it's beliefs like these that bother me about cock obessed tranny chasers. You get off on the fact that we used to be men. Now, i can only speak for myself and my own sexuality. I'll tell you right now if a man doesn't consider himself at the very least heteronormative, then I dont think I'll be sleeping with him.. thats just me. To me personally, an obsession with cock connotes an attraction to men. I have validated cock obsessions for a while with "oh it's like a pussy" or "oh gurl dat a feminine cock". Wrong.

My issue is when it men dont even care about anything aside from cock. Because I dunno....if when we go into the bedroom and the first thing you do i bend over or get on your knees, pretty much nothing turns me off more than that. i've had plenty of guys who didn't want to date me because i woldnt fuck them or i wouldnt let them suck me off. Now maybe it's because I like men a bit on the heteronormative side but in MY opinion... when i give you this ass and this mouth and your reaction is "what about the cock" all i can think is "nigga you wastin my mah fucking time git you a man" and i dont even speak like that, but my internal monolouge is a ghetto girl named shaquanda.

It just seems to me cock obsessed guys would get off more on porn featuring men or havving sex with men. Femme boys panty boys crossdressers. I know that i certainly dont speak for everyone and my sexuality isnt super super common but i can't help but feel that men attracted to women enjoy at least the very minimum of heterosexual pleasures... such as my bomb ass award winning head and my tight tight ass (unless you're big, you'll just get frustrated... tight is not a euphemism.)

Anywhooooo. Now, if you wanna jerk off together, let's go. You wanna stroke it a little when we make out, lets do it. lol


I think the industry will remain dick centric because, well we're transsexuals. That's what different about us and you can make money off of exploiting our "differences". Simple as that. Hell, a requirement for working with Grooby is being willing and able to stroke your cock.

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PREACH Kitty PREACH!

Hallelue~!!!!!!!!

You've made a good point Kitty, but you're speaking totally of the way you feel about guys who ABSOLUTELY LOVE dick. I'm not talking about dick-obsessed guys. Most of the guys on this site are not dick obsessed, but I guarantee you that they have no problem commenting on a girl's penis just as well as her ass. I'm not speaking of extreme terms here, I'm only making a point of the typical guy on this site. If the guys on this site had an issue with a penis, they wouldn't be here looking at the girls with penises. Sorry, but it is what it is Kitty. Now, that doesn't mean that you should be associated as the girl with a penis. Not saying that at all. When someone says Kitty to me, I think of a woman named Kitty. I'm not thinking of her penis. Again, a difference between dick-obsessed guys and "heteronormative" guys. Quick question Kitty: Would you consider yourself heteronormative?

Shaun, I understand your art experiment point, but it's definitely documented that chemical composition has a great deal to do with the amount of femininity or masculinity one possesses. That, coupled with genetic makeup. Since I am a Biology graduate, I would probably steer my point more in the direction of science based logic. That's just the way my mind is hardwired. But you made a very valid point though. It is still a circle, sir.

I am probably the most heteronormative transsexual you'll ever meet.

So what if a "straight" male or "straight" female doesn't perceive transgendered people as hetero? I'm only asking this question Kitty, because I'm trying to understand what the term heteronormative means to you. Remember KM, I think you're a sexy, beautiful woman. I just like to have these discussions.

I think the separation between the guys that enjoy shemales can be observed outside of the bedroom. There are the guys that give a damn about the size of the shemale's penis and those that don't. Within the group of guys that care you will find your cock worshippers, etc...

These are the guys who may say "She has a beautiful body and a BIG love stick." These guys may look at certain tgirls with disappointment like "She has a big ass, but if only she had a big pussy stick to go along with it she'd be perfect."

Reality is that a portion of the guys that really care about shemale cock were once guys that didn't, but got "turned out" over time. The mentality went from "I'd still fuck even though it has a penis" to "I want to fuck and play with the penis" to "I want to fuck and get fucked." :eek:

Ultimately I think the shemale porn industry is making the best porn for the largest portion of its audience.

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Reality is that a portion of the guys that really care about shemale cock were once guys that didn't, but got "turned out" over time. The mentality went from "I'd still fuck even though it has a penis" to "I want to fuck and play with the penis" to "I want to fuck and get fucked." :eek:

Ultimately I think the shemale porn industry is making the best porn for the largest portion of its audience.

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There's a lot of truth in this.... But surely the largest portion of its audience are the guys who fall into the category "I'd still fuck her even though she has a cock" which soon overlaps with those guys who dont mind playing with TS cock and in turn that overlaps with guys who actively enjoy playing with TS cock, e.g. rubbing their own cock against the TS's cock (which I find very erotic! lol)

The absolute stark difference is when you're talking about guys who include their assholes as an errogenous zone...

And it is my contention that the vast majority of guys - whether they have a thing for TS Porn or not - do NOT like things going all up in their assholes.

Infact, when you think about it, most Women don't like being penetrated in their assholes... So thank God for TS Women who list their asshole as one of their errogenous zones! lol

This, for me, is a major part of the attraction of TS Porn: it is the fact that anal sex is on offer, and like a lot of guys, I have a real intense fetish for sliding my cock into a babe's asshole.

The fact that TS Porn producers choose to mix/dilute/fuck up their product with hairy assed men getting DRILLED out by TS COCK and endless footage of bored TS Models routinely stroking their cock is really confusing to me...

I'm not saying such scenes shouldn't exist, cos of course there will always be a market of cock-obsessed guys who couldn't care about the model and only FOCUS on her cock...

What I'm arguing for is a DISTINCT TS genre, on DVD and websites, for guys like me (who I consider to be the majority, i.e. into the babe and her ass, not spellbound by her cock and whether or not she will fuck them)....

Mixing these two markets together makes no sense!... Its the same as str8 porn producers mixing their product with the babe getting drilled in one scene, and in the next she's wearing a strap-on a fucking the hell out of a guys skinny hairy ass... Nonsense!

Sadly, TS producers know they can supply pretty much anything cos they know full well that guys like me have a very INTENSE fetish for TS babes and therefore I will have no choice but to keep coming back, even though I have to sift through a whole load of irrelevant stuff that means nothing to me before I occasionally find the odd gem or 2 (usually courtesy of Remy or Buddy Wood, god bless x)

But as I said, as soon as TS Porn that caters for my very simple tastes becomes available, then that is where my custom goes....

Imagine it... scene after scene after scene where the TS Model is simply playing the part of a seductive Woman... who just happens to have a dick...

... rather than shooting scenes in a style that only serves to transform the TS Model into a predatory DICK with a babe attached, playing on the quasi -homosexual self-loathing of relatively small numbers of men, and thereby ensuring that the TS market will forever be ghetto-ized in this scene.

A babe is a babe is a babe is a babe is babe!... It doesn't matter if she has a dick or not (although I like it because it pretty much kinda guarantees anal sex with her, lol)

The point is, I would no more want Hazel Tucker to fuck me up my arse than I would want Jenna Jameson to fuck me up my arse with a strap-on... THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!! LOL

Producers!... Wake up!....You dont have to mix these two ENTIRELY DISTINCT markets together!!!

SHAUN

A TS MODEL IS MORE THAN A DICK WITH A BABE ATTACHED!

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LET THE GIRLS BE GIRLS AND THE BOYS BE BOYS!

I'll explain my heteronormality

I am a woman

I feel like a woman, i like like a woman

it is a man's job to penetrate and a womans job to be penetrated. Any compromise of that switches, dillutes and confuses what i consider to be the sexual roles assigned to the opposite sexes. i only get off by men who fulfill their bill as a man (in my opinion). It is demeaning for a man to get on his knees and beg for cock. It is demeaning for a man to bend over and assume a feminine sexual role and nothing turns me off more than a man who desires the role of a female.

That all being said, this is how i feel and that is how I am heteronormative. Whether or not heterosexual people consider me to be heterosexual or normative matters not to me. In my dealing with trans attracted men I have discovered that men are not entirely heterosexual when they are involved with trans women. As much as i've told myself that, the fact that your average heterosexual man probably wouldnt sleep with a chick with a dick tells me all i need to know about the clear cut heterosexuality of men who are attacted to trans women. So I consider myself a heteronormative and heterosexual woman because I am a woman who desires the true definition of a heterosexual relationship. On the other hand, I recognize my anatomy doesnt lend itself to a completely heterosexual relationship. Therefore, I call my realtionships heteronormal.

Confusing, i know, but basically i am a woman who expects men to be men. Simply put. I hope that doesn't offend you, but this is how i feel. And I've discovered that a lot of men can feel the same way

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

I'll explain my heteronormality

I am a woman

I feel like a woman, i like like a woman

it is a man's job to penetrate and a womans job to be penetrated. Any compromise of that switches, dillutes and confuses what i consider to be the sexual roles assigned to the opposite sexes. i only get off by men who fulfill their bill as a man (in my opinion). It is demeaning for a man to get on his knees and beg for cock. It is demeaning for a man to bend over and assume a feminine sexual role and nothing turns me off more than a man who desires the role of a female.

That all being said, this is how i feel and that is how I am heteronormative. Whether or not heterosexual people consider me to be heterosexual or normative matters not to me. In my dealing with trans attracted men I have discovered that men are not entirely heterosexual when they are involved with trans women. As much as i've told myself that, the fact that your average heterosexual man probably wouldnt sleep with a chick with a dick tells me all i need to know about the clear cut heterosexuality of men who are attacted to trans women. So I consider myself a heteronormative and heterosexual woman because I am a woman who desires the true definition of a heterosexual relationship. On the other hand, I recognize my anatomy doesnt lend itself to a completely heterosexual relationship. Therefore, I call my realtionships heteronormal.

Confusing, i know, but basically i am a woman who expects men to be men. Simply put. I hope that doesn't offend you, but this is how i feel. And I've discovered that a lot of men can feel the same way

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No, not confusing at all. I totally understand what you're talking about. I understand your point and I'm sure you know where I'm going with my point. The reason it's so hard to argue my point is because you emphatically use the phrase, "in my opinion." Therefore, I digress. But I think you know where I was going with that. About offending me? No ma'am Kitty. I, too, desire the warm sensation of a nice pussy around my dick. My sexual flings or hook-up partners are biological women. When I'm horny and need some sexual gratification, a transsexual would be my last resort. So, when I started this little debate with you, I wasn't speaking for myself. I was only playing devil's advocate. However, I do like to look at a penis on a woman because it is totally sexy to me. It's kinda oxymoronic. A beautiful face with nice tits, beautiful round ass, sexy stomach and shapely hips right? Then she turns around and POW!!! In your face! That is totally gorgeous to me. Doesn't mean I want her to bend me over and bang my back out. There is a difference Ms. Kitty between loving the transsexual anatomy, visually and desiring to be blasted.

So you only fuck transsexuals out of desperation.


This further confirms my reasons for heteronormality.


I think thats sorta sad and i think it's sad that a lot o guys are like that. Cis gendered women dont want to fuck them so they fuck transsexuals because a lot of transsexuals need validation.

Sad sad.

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

So you only fuck transsexuals out of desperation.


This further confirms my reasons for heteronormality.


I think thats sorta sad and i think it's sad that a lot o guys are like that. Cis gendered women dont want to fuck them so they fuck transsexuals because a lot of transsexuals need validation.

Sad sad.

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Huh? Kitty, I'm afraid you look too much into things that aren't there. Those words didn't come out of my mouth at all. I'm not desparate for anything. I have made you a friend on this site so I'm sure you've seen my profile pictures and if you haven't then go check them out. As you can see, I have no need, in the slightest, to be desparate. And as you can clearly see, I'm definitely not likely to get rejected by Cis or Trans gendered women. So there's no need for me to use transsexuals because I have no luck with biowomen. I've never experienced that, sorry. What's sad Kitty, is that you would actually assume this was the case. Would it be safe for me to assume that the reason you assumed such a thing is because you have been the second option to a man that got rejected by a biowoman? Perhaps I could, but that wouldn't be smart considering I don't know much about you or what goes on in your life. Assumptions, in most cases are never correct or wise. Let me explain what I meant in my last post. Before I even became interested in transsexuals, I was only involved with biowomen. I had no idea what a transsexual was until I reached my mid twenties. So, automatically my first desire is pussy because that's what I've always liked and had a desire for and grew up chasing. Just because pussy is my first choice doesn't mean that I can't have a desire for transsexuals. Afterall, a woman is a woman right? I don't see any difference between you and Kim Kardashian other than outer physical appearance. To me, both of you are women, period! So, I don't understand why it appears to you that I kick it with transsexuals out of desparation or second option; I mean, are you a woman or aren't you? Seems like you're separating yourself from biowomen. They're women to me and if I see a woman (cis or trans) that I like, then I'm going to go after her. Let me also inform you that I don't associate with weak minded individuals. Every woman that I have been involved with is secure in who she is. She knows she's a woman and doesn't need me to validate her. Women kick it with me because they find me attractive, interesting, fun, and likewise, I do they. And let me just conclude with this statement....Concerning your "heteronormality." If you told any person who isn't an advocate of LGBT or a hater of the LGBT community, they would say that you aren't a woman and they would also say that this man you consider "heteronormal" is a fag for knowing that you possess a penis, but insists on bending you over and fucking you anyway. To us guys that love transsexuals, yes, you are a woman. But to those others that frown upon this thing, you are a feminine man....or in their terms, a fuckin faggot. So this whole thing of hetero or homo is quite relative and one's opinion depends on what side of the fence one's spectating from.

"My sexual flings or hook-up partners are biological women. When I'm horny and need some sexual gratification, a transsexual would be my last resort"


Sounds pretty straightforward to me. I appologize if i have misread that. I keep reading it and it seems like what i'm thinking it means. hmm.

Bscott is a feminine man.

I am a woman.


Believe it or not, people, trans attracted or not see me as a woman. The discussion of my trans identity doesn't come up often because I am a woman. Trying to inform me of who I am and how people percieve me will not help you because who I am is apparent. It's apparent to everyone who has met me and honestly, trying i spend more time trying to convince people i have a penis than the other way around.

You can't speak for other people you can only speak for yourself and if you believe transsexuals are feminine men then that's your belief, but in my personal experience most people view passable transsexuals as women. Sad reality is that, as much as we'd like to pretend that it doesn't, looks do matter in the perception of gender. I haven't been viewed or even refered to as a "feminine man" in a very very long time. My claims to heteronormality, i find, are understood by most people. Possibly more so to people who are not trans attracted. But perhaps I'm lucky.

And no, i have not looked at your profile.


About other men:

Sure, in the past perhaps, but i've realized those men were, in reality, desperate and I haven't ran into that since i've gone full time. But i dunno, there's somethign about men who appreciate transsexuals for a male sex drive that really puts me off. the whole "best of both worlds" thing is just...aye.


But I should note that there's a difference between my preference and the industry's preference. And I know no matter how many times i can sit around and play with my ass, a video of me stroking would sell a lot more.

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But I should note that there's a difference between my preference and the industry's preference. And I know no matter how many times i can sit around and play with my ass, a video of me stroking would sell a lot more.

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That's only what you believe, courtesy of the corner that TS Porn has painted itself into.

I still contend that there are more men who fantasize about sliding their cock into TS ass - so long as she looks and feels womanly - than there are men who fantasize about getting fucked by TS cock.

Unfortunately TS Porn only caters, almost ex-fucking-clusively, for the latter type of guy, cos they see it as a safe bet.

In other words, catering for a niche audience that has deep-seated and possibly unconcious homosexual desires, but doesn't want to buy guy-on-guy porn, is a surefire way of getting their custom; in this way the TS Porn industry enables them to maintain their str8 delusions.... Meanwhile the rest of us have to accept the truck-loads of COCK-COCK-COCK obsessed content.

But,

what about the gazillions of other guys who don't have homosexual desires - consciously or otherwise - and who aren't obsessed with TS cock, and who don't list their own assholes as one of their errogenous zones?

Guys like me, for instance, who don't merely "tolerate" the dick on a TS babe, but actually find it exotically attractive in a deliciously taboo kinda way (probably because it's a guarantor of anal sex with the babe lol) BUT, who don't wanna get drilled out by one! lol

If I were shooting you Kitty, I would make a scene where you can be just as you are... very very femme, very seductive, bewitching, playing with your ass, teasing, very verbal and enchanting, tempting, more ass-play, dildo-play, modelling lingerie and more teasing, and just being the gorgeous femme that you are.... with a dick/large clit....

And if I were shooting a hardcore scene I would include mutual dick-play and mutual oral, but no way would I ask you to fuck the guy; that is different DISTINCT market, and it's such a fukking frustrating shame that the TS Porn industry still chooses to mix these markets together :mad:

SHAUN xx

A WOMAN IS MORE THAN A CLIT/DICK WITH A BABE ATTACHED

Yeah let's get this thread back on course with focusing on how to get more focus on tgirl ass in video. We don't really need to know one another's orientation, gender identity, preferences or whatever outside of the scope of the topic at hand.

The proliferation of shemale jackoff scenes is too vast. I've never watched a gay male jackoff scene, but I would imagine it goes the same exact way as these shemale masturbation scenes which too frequently are little more than getting erect and rubbing one out, the end... So the tgirl directors may simply just be sticking to what they know.

This effort may ultimately prove as futile as my desire to see the top shemales make scenes with big booty female adult performers. A scene with TS Vaniity and Pinky XXX & her strap-on would be huge.

Which brings up another topic of discussion, the cross over with hetero porn actors and trans actors. From what i've discovered via friends in the industry is that there isn't much crossing over. Which explains why there's so much "shemale" solo jerk sessions and ts on ts action. When men decide to work with transsexual women in hardcore scenes, to my understanding they are somewhat black balled. I'm sure the same could be applied to hetero females, but correct me if i'm wrong.



I have noticed from just my personal experience with webcam shows and my own amature videos that the vidoes of myself with my legs spread playing with a dildo, playing with my tits and virtually ignoring my penis or not utilizing it as a tool of seduction just doesn't sell. I remember i had tons of videos of me moving my bum seductively and fingering it and ect. I probably got a handful of guys who'd log in and be really into it or shoot me compliments

Now i make a video of me jerking off.....

men damn near offer me the world. hahahhah

I would say that the majority of transsexual porn caters to homosexual desires and the typical "well it's a girl" excuse to enjoy cock. Not saying that there's anything wrong with men that do, but when it's masked this way, i think that's dangerous. BUt that's me.

I personally can't watch most trans porn because the fact that the girl is fucking the guy or the guy is sucking the girl just...turns me off a lot. ahahaPerhaps i'm shallow but god it would be awesome if I could see more scenes where the tgirl is just getting drilled and sucking cock.

I personally, and i know i'm not the target for trans porn, watch gay porn or amature porn where a woman is getting gang banged. Mostly because that's pretty self explanatory. ahha. Then again, as a trans woman i think i get off on pornography where there are clear roles. lol. and i guess being verse in porn is the ticket to makin' dough. lol

While there are numerous reasons why dont think i'd really do "porn", the main one is that i know any one who hires me isn't going to simply allow me to express the reality of my sexuality. That's not what men pay for. lol. So if i do have porn it will be amature. Raw, real, amature and hot. :D

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"My sexual flings or hook-up partners are biological women. When I'm horny and need some sexual gratification, a transsexual would be my last resort"


Sounds pretty straightforward to me. I appologize if i have misread that. I keep reading it and it seems like what i'm thinking it means. hmm.

Bscott is a feminine man.

I am a woman.


Believe it or not, people, trans attracted or not see me as a woman. The discussion of my trans identity doesn't come up often because I am a woman. Trying to inform me of who I am and how people percieve me will not help you because who I am is apparent. It's apparent to everyone who has met me and honestly, trying i spend more time trying to convince people i have a penis than the other way around.

You can't speak for other people you can only speak for yourself and if you believe transsexuals are feminine men then that's your belief, but in my personal experience most people view passable transsexuals as women. Sad reality is that, as much as we'd like to pretend that it doesn't, looks do matter in the perception of gender. I haven't been viewed or even refered to as a "feminine man" in a very very long time. My claims to heteronormality, i find, are understood by most people. Possibly more so to people who are not trans attracted. But perhaps I'm lucky.

And no, i have not looked at your profile.


About other men:

Sure, in the past perhaps, but i've realized those men were, in reality, desperate and I haven't ran into that since i've gone full time. But i dunno, there's somethign about men who appreciate transsexuals for a male sex drive that really puts me off. the whole "best of both worlds" thing is just...aye.


But I should note that there's a difference between my preference and the industry's preference. And I know no matter how many times i can sit around and play with my ass, a video of me stroking would sell a lot more.

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Well maybe you should look at it before you autoassume that I could possibly be some desparate guy that only gravitates toward transsexuals when the pussy is not cooperating.

I guess that did sound a little suspect. I didn't mean that the way it sounded. Last resort? No. I simply meant that when I get sexually excited, my first thought is biopussy, not transpussy.

I don't believe transsexuals are feminine men, that never came from my mouth either. What I said was, those that are not advocates of LGBT or hate the LGBT community would consider you a feminine man. Who knows, maybe they are saying that just to be hateful or maybe they really feel that way. That group of people doesn't include me. As I have stated 100s of times, I think you are an amazingly attractive WOMAN, Kitty. So why do you insist on putting me in the wrong category. I love transsexual women just as I love biological women. Again, there is no separation as far as I'm concerned.

About the industry....Yes, a video of you stroking would be more of a sell because most guys that watch tranny porn are just fantasy seekers. There are few guys who are actually into the girls for more than what she is physically. Compare the number of guys who watch tranny porn to the number of members on this site and I'm pretty sure that the ratio is quite obscure. For those guys that just perceive you as a fantasy, of course they would want the video of you stroking.

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Perhaps i'm shallow but god it would be awesome if I could see more scenes where the tgirl is just getting drilled and sucking cock.

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Oh my goodness.... u sound like proper girlfriend material!!! xxx

SHAUN xx

It seems like you guys are biased against a guy who lets a T-Girl top him :( lol. Personally, I've never had sex with a T-girl but If I ever did I would let her top me. It's been a long time fantasy of mine. Now, growing up I never had any attraction to men and I still don't now. I Never will. But the first image I ever saw of a T-Girl was her topping a guy. I saw it in a ripped piece of a magazine, a few years ago when I was only 13. I couldn't that get image of her banging the guy out of my head.

But when I first saw it, I found it nasty and even scary. At such a young age I didn't even know things like that existed. Most likely, If I didn't see that image that day I wouldn't be on here today. Now, it's a huge turn on for me to watch a T-Girl top a guy. I really can't get enough of it to tell the truth. I don't act feminine in any way, nor do I think of T-girls as men with boobs.

I do think of you as Girls with dicks. To me it's just like the girl is in charge. In my past relationships with all of my Exes, we've had great sex. Watching TGirl porn doesn't stop me from being able to bang the shit outta sum coochie lol. But sometimes though I do want my girl to be on top. And bio women just really can't do that like T-Girls can. I've had girls claim to be "on top" while we have sex and it's just really them hitting me while I'm fucking the shit out of them lol.

But with a T-Girl tho, if she says she's on top, she's on TOP. I don't know why it excites me so much to see those roles reversed but it really does. And there are plenty of T-Girls who don't have a problem (ALOT even prefer) smashing a guy out. I don't think it makes me any less of a man to take some trans dick. In fact I just think it makes me more of a freak that I'm willing to fuck bio women and get fucked by Trans women. Just my two cents.

again, i dont want to make this about personal sexual preferences but..


See, to me, in all honesty i have never spoken to a transsexual woman who doesn't work in the sex industry who prefers or desires to top a man. When i'm teasing guys on cam, i will allude to the fact that i have a penis and perhaps be tempting and suggestive, but to me that's bussines. If a guy's fantasy is to suck me off i'll act like that's what i want to do. I'll fulfill their webcam fantasy because it's what makes me money and to be honest, if i didn't need money i wouldn't be doing it... well at least for money. ahaha.

But that's Kitty the performer and exhibitionist.

Kitty the person has run into men who have gone through situations like you've just described, Flaco. Where you are disgusted and then it becomes a turn on or a fantasy. See, that creates a unique mentality. A mentality that ultimately leads to men who make tgirls go through hoops in order to prove they're worth it. And no woman should have to prove their worth.

Hell, even today. A guy on OKcupid sent me a message. He asked me what it was like being on OKcupid and i told the m that it sucks when you're a trnassexual. What was his response?


HOW BIG IS IT?

I mean, can you see how demeaning that is?

I mean, I'll go out on a whim here and say that most trans women carry a resentment towards their penis. So that being said, the thought of using it or being appreciated for it or narrowed down to it, hurts them. I dont think transseuxal porn gives men a correct impression of a transsexual woman and her sexual appetite or preferences. Sure if you're trying to do a pornstar or an escort she'll top ya because that makes her more money. I'm not saying there's a lot of girls that do it because they like it, i'm sure there are. I havent met many non working girls who feel that way.


I dunno, i get really disenchanted when men are surprised and confused that i dont want to give them cock. They expect it because of the unrealistic portrayal of transsexual sexual appetite. And unlike cis gendered women, there aren't many avenues or expression of transgendered sexuality outside of porn and prostitution. So a lot of men dont truly get an impression of reality because theyre used to fantasy.

Like I said, if you're paying me, i'll fullfill your fantasy on cam. Porn is a fantasy.

Honestly, you make some very great points, Kitty. You make me look at things in a different light. I never really thought of T-Girls carrying resentment towards their penises. It's always seemed to me that many T-Girls like their penises but at the same time they still feel they're women. I've always felt the T-Girls that really didn't like their penises are the ones who end up getting it removed. But I guess me seeing the images of Transwomen with boners and smiles clouded my judgement.

PS- Sorry about the guy on OkCupid. Do you carry resentment towards your penis as well?

Well at this point the only reasons i've considered removing my penis have been for vanity reasons. Wanting to go swimming and not have to tuck for instance.

I enjoy my penis on a personal level, but i believe its connotation changes when a man wants to suck it or get fucked by it


Much in the way men who call themselves straight, feminize a transsexual's penis, i feminize mine. It's not masculine to me until aman wants me to fill a masculine role.


When i'm jerking on cam i smile too. Money money money.