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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred View Post
    Hey there Vman!

    There once was a time when I would be saying the same thing that you're saying right now. However, after being exposed to the gay and trans scene in San Francisco for so long, I finally began to understand that most Tgirl admirers (including myself) are definitely NOT attracted to post-op transsexuals. The overwhelming majority of us prefer pre-op Tgirls. The obvious difference, is that pre-ops have a penis and post-ops don't. That only leads us to one question:

    What is there about the presence of the penis, that we find so attractive?
    Answer: It's the penis, itself!

    There's something taboo about it being attached to the heavenly female bodies that we so much adore. However without it, most of us would NOT be as attracted to those heavenly bodies nearly as much. That's why we usually pass on the post-ops.



    Maybe you're different, I don't know. What I do know for certain, is that most Tgirl admirers, when handed the Trans Pizza Menu, will order one with meat!

    I once went to a gay bar looking for a certain Tgirl who had not been on hormone therapy or anything. We had been kickin' it for about a couple of weeks. She turned out to be a no-show. I sat there at the bar talking to a very intelligent but effeminate gay guy. He was wearing regular male clothing (upscaled). He also was on the metro-sexual side of things and had a very appealing softness about himself. I drove up his driveway to drop him off. He leaned over kissed me on the cheek and proceeded to give me a blow job. It was the best I ever had. I went into his home and spent the night. Somehow, he felt just as good as any tgirl I had ever been with before!

    This event caused me to come to grips with a better view as to what I was and was not attracted to. Do I like guyish-looking guys? No! I hate my muscles against another dudes mucles. I also hate facial hair rubbing against my face (or any other body part). However, effeminate gay guys, who aren't aggressive can be rather attractive to me. Sometimes, depending upon their demeanor and degree of sweetness, they just might be the preferred "catch of the day".

    * Remember, some guys have the basic mentality of females but they refuse to crossdress or accept any type of hormonal therapy. They're just soft, cute, sweet, and attracted to men.

    PS.

    There is at least one dude featured in the models section of this site. His name is "Dominic". Check him out and keep you subscription, afterwards...
    Your preference, Cornbread, is that you admire guys who are a tad bit soft and have a certain feminine quality to them. Let me be short and to the point......I HAVE NO ATTRACTION TO A MAN, REGARDLESS OF HOW FEMININE HE IS OR HOW "SOFTLY SPOKEN" HE IS. If a man tries to go down on me, Cornbread, there are going to be some serious altercations at that point. Please don't try to convince me or coax me into "looking into" feminine men. It won't work. You stick to what works for you, and I, likewise.

    About your perception that men prefer pre-ops rather than post ops......you might be right but again, you're generalizing. Most men might prefer pre-ops over post-ops, but that doesn't mean that all of them do. The real question you need to ask, Cornbread, is if those men that prefer a pre-op over a post-op feel that these are womenor men. I guarantee that no one will mistake a pre or post-op as a femme man. As I stated before, I like women PERIOD. I like transsexuals (pre and post ops) and I like biological women. I will look at a fat wet bio-pussy just as lustfully as I look at a fat wet trans-pussy or pussystick. The common factor is not the sexual organ, sir! The common factor is that they are women!! A femme man is not a woman but a transsexual is. Why don't you go marinade on that for a minute homie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidman View Post
    Your preference, Cornbread, is that you admire guys who are a tad bit soft and have a certain feminine quality to them. Let me be short and to the point......I HAVE NO ATTRACTION TO A MAN, REGARDLESS OF HOW FEMININE HE IS OR HOW "SOFTLY SPOKEN" HE IS. If a man tries to go down on me, Cornbread, there are going to be some serious altercations at that point. Please don't try to convince me or coax me into "looking into" feminine men. It won't work. You stick to what works for you, and I, likewise.

    About your perception that men prefer pre-ops rather than post ops......you might be right but again, you're generalizing. Most men might prefer pre-ops over post-ops, but that doesn't mean that all of them do. The real question you need to ask, Cornbread, is if those men that prefer a pre-op over a post-op feel that these are womenor men. I guarantee that no one will mistake a pre or post-op as a femme man. As I stated before, I like women PERIOD. I like transsexuals (pre and post ops) and I like biological women. I will look at a fat wet bio-pussy just as lustfully as I look at a fat wet trans-pussy or pussystick. The common factor is not the sexual organ, sir! The common factor is that they are women!! A femme man is not a woman but a transsexual is. Why don't you go marinade on that for a minute homie.
    Hey there Vman!

    Wow! That marinade felt good! You've got skills, chef!

    Now, if a femme man was to start taking hormones, had breast implants, crossdressed, and insisted that he was a woman, then suddenly, you might have a change of heart. Ok, I think I'm beginning to understand you, now!

    I'm with you Vman, I prefer Tgirls to just about anything else too! The only difference is, I lean heavily towards the pre-ops, which is quite typical for Tgirl admirers. I've spent my most of my life with Bio-girls. I'm pretty much done there! Femme guys who are non-aggressive, have a "pretty" face (without facial hair), are soft-spoken, are petite, and just look effeminate, are prime candidates for me. I see little difference between them and Tgirls in the nude. Though, I'm really not on the prowl these days, I still find that the feeling of attraction is still there.

    I guess the only part that I really don't get about you Vman is the fact the "trans-pussy" and the "pussystick" appear to have equal status with you.

    Oh well! To each his own!

    Sincerely,
    Koanbred

    PS.

    Got anymore of that marinade?

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    I agree, there is no need for pictures of gay guys here, this forum is for tgirls and the admirers. This is an old thread, that someone resurrected but perhaps it's time to close it as precious few of us want to look at a gay guys' butt anyway.

    I absolutely am attracted to GG's, and tgirls (pre and post), though I've yet to sexually interact with a post op. That's more because the post-ops' I know are good friends and I've never approaced them from a 'can I hit it' angle, nor do I feel I should with them as I enjoy the friendship as is. I've seen more than a few post op girls on this site and Yum that I'd really would like to meet in the sheets though It's the personality that usually does it for me, not any particular asset a girl has. She does have to have at least some hormone breast growth though. I don't care if she has huge implants, or small budding hormone tits, but there needs to be something, a flat guy's chest does nothing for me. This is one of the reasons I have models leave their bra on if there is no puffy nipples or anything yet for a new girl. On Yum they criticized me for not still showing the 'boy chest', so for that site I will allow total nudity even without any breast tissue, but I still think it maintains the illusion of woman better by just leaving bra on.

    It's kind of funny that, I've known a fair share of tgirl admirers that basically used tgirls as a stepping stone and then moving on to prefer gay guys. I don't think that was their intent, but it's a mildly interesting topic and I know more than a few tgirls have known guys like this (to their displeasure).

    Stating what you like is fine and dandy Koanbred, but you shouldn't expect a warm reception when you try to force your views on others. Let people like what they like. Dominic is one of those exceptions to the rule, starting out as Chante to most of the members here. Chante is very inciting and pretty. When the follow up appeared with Chante now as Dominic, there was mix results with some liking and some not. I was really hoping to recapture the Chante of old when I did my shoot, and I wasn't able to, but I think at least some will like her or at the very least her assets. Dominic really does have an awesome personality and is fun to hang with though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred
    I've always had the impression that this site was for Tgirl admirers and not necessarily, for Tgirls themselves.

    You could quite possibly describe this site as one for Tgirl admirers and their Tgirls.

    However, this site is definitely not exclusively for Tgirls!
    This is a site that showcases Black Tgirls for the admirers to appreciate. Most likely if a tgirl wanted to watch porn they wouldn't do it here, as many are not into other tgirls (though not all thankfully ) Many black tgirls still want to stop by to converse with the their admirers and we shouldn't alienate them in anyway.

    And if it wasn't made clear above, I absolutely would Not Hit It! I get disgusted just seeing guys sag their pants where their underwear is visible. I mean come on, how is that even practical, they look like peguins walking about with the waist band at the thigh/hip level. I had to read my brother out the other day for cutting the grass with his pants at his knees, and he had a belt on!! We stay in a very nice/well to do neighborhood, there's no reason for the neighbors kids to be subjected to that image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    I agree, there is no need for pictures of gay guys here, this forum is for tgirls and the admirers. This is an old thread, that someone resurrected but perhaps it's time to close it as precious few of us want to look at a gay guys' butt anyway.

    I absolutely am attracted to GG's, and tgirls (pre and post), though I've yet to sexually interact with a post op. That's more because the post-ops' I know are good friends and I've never approaced them from a 'can I hit it' angle, nor do I feel I should with them as I enjoy the friendship as is. I've seen more than a few post op girls on this site and Yum that I'd really would like to meet in the sheets though It's the personality that usually does it for me, not any particular asset a girl has. She does have to have at least some hormone breast growth though. I don't care if she has huge implants, or small budding hormone tits, but there needs to be something, a flat guy's chest does nothing for me. This is one of the reasons I have models leave their bra on if there is no puffy nipples or anything yet for a new girl. On Yum they criticized me for not still showing the 'boy chest', so for that site I will allow total nudity even without any breast tissue, but I still think it maintains the illusion of woman better by just leaving bra on.

    It's kind of funny that, I've known a fair share of tgirl admirers that basically used tgirls as a stepping stone and then moving on to prefer gay guys. I don't think that was their intent, but it's a mildly interesting topic and I know more than a few tgirls have known guys like this (to their displeasure).

    Stating what you like is fine and dandy Koanbred, but you shouldn't expect a warm reception when you try to force your views on others. Let people like what they like. Dominic is one of those exceptions to the rule, starting out as Chante to most of the members here. Chante is very inciting and pretty. When the follow up appeared with Chante now as Dominic, there was mix results with some liking and some not. I was really hoping to recapture the Chante of old when I did my shoot, and I wasn't able to, but I think at least some will like her or at the very least her assets. Dominic really does have an awesome personality and is fun to hang with though.



    This is a site that showcases Black Tgirls for the admirers to appreciate. Most likely if a tgirl wanted to watch porn they wouldn't do it here, as many are not into other tgirls (though not all thankfully ) Many black tgirls still want to stop by to converse with the their admirers and we shouldn't alienate them in anyway.

    And if it wasn't made clear above, I absolutely would Not Hit It! I get disgusted just seeing guys sag their pants where their underwear is visible. I mean come on, how is that even practical, they look like peguins walking about with the waist band at the thigh/hip level. I had to read my brother out the other day for cutting the grass with his pants at his knees, and he had a belt on!! We stay in a very nice/well to do neighborhood, there's no reason for the neighbors kids to be subjected to that image.
    Hey there Remy!

    I got one question just for you.

    Looking at nice rounded asses with a dick hanging down between, how in the world do you actually know if it belongs to a Tgirl or not? It may belong to a straight male who's just posing for the picture to be taken. On the other hand, it may belong to a gay guy. There's absolutely no way, you could tell the difference unless the Tgirl has been on hormones for awhile. That's the only way. However, a Tgirls ass looks exactly like any other male's ass, without the HRT!

    I totally agree with you about the breasts. Breasts are definitely a turn-on for me. I don't like huge augmentatious breasts, but I do like something there. If she doesn't have anything but a flat chest, then the bra is mandatory for sex-appeal. Of course, late at night after closing the bar, behind closed doors with the lights off and between the sheets, the breasts don't matter at all.

    Now, imagine going to bed with Chante, you hit it, only to wake-up next to Dominic! LOL

    We may laugh, but in the T world, this goes on all of the time. Unless a Tgirl has been on hormones for awhile and therefore, has a soft body, has full breasts, doesn't have solid musculature, and has no facial hair, you could very well be waking up next to a dudish-looking Tgirl.

    Please! How many times have I gone to bed with a Tgirl, only to wake up next to a dudish-looking person with no wig, no make-up anymore (none to speak of), and now, a five o'clock shadow.

    After awhile, you just adapt and accept the Tgirl just as much as you would the effeminate guy gay, because you're going to wake up next to the same thing most likely, anyway. How many Dominics have I awkened to, after banging Chante?

    Some Tgirls try to sleep with their wigs and make-up on. That can get really funny! Either that, or they try to wake up earlier than you do, so that they can "get it back together".

    What games people play!

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    Remy! Please find the place where I'm trying to force my views onto someone. I dare you! It doesn't exist!

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    man delete this nasty ass thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by mick foley View Post
    man delete this nasty ass thread

    So screwing a Tgirl in the booty is "clean", but screwing a gay guy in the booty is "nasty"!

    Just remember, that gay guy that you curse today, could very well be that Tgirl, tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred View Post
    So screwing a Tgirl in the booty is "clean", but screwing a gay guy in the booty is "nasty"!

    Just remember, that gay guy that you curse today, could very well be that Tgirl, tomorrow!
    This is why I don't think you know transgenders or have a view of them that is different to most. Maybe you are a gay guy, maybe you are a bit of a queen yourself but most transsexuals would not say they were "gay guys". The opposite of "nasty" isn't clean so stop putting words in people's mouth, the opposite would be nice.
    As this forum is a tgirl forum and not a bisexual forum, or a gay forum, no matter where you think tgirls lie on that spectrum, then yes, for most people here hitting a tgirl ass would be nice - hitting a guys ass would be nasty.
    I'm beginning to get weary of you - you continue to support my idea of who you really are and your underlying agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    This is why I don't think you know transgenders or have a view of them that is different to most. Maybe you are a gay guy, maybe you are a bit of a queen yourself but most transsexuals would not say they were "gay guys". The opposite of "nasty" isn't clean so stop putting words in people's mouth, the opposite would be nice.
    As this forum is a tgirl forum and not a bisexual forum, or a gay forum, no matter where you think tgirls lie on that spectrum, then yes, for most people here hitting a tgirl ass would be nice - hitting a guys ass would be nasty.
    I'm beginning to get weary of you - you continue to support my idea of who you really are and your underlying agenda.
    What you continue to call my "agenda", is really just my "opinion". If you don't like my opinion that screwing a pre-op Tgirl (who has not undergone HRT), is the equivalent to screwing a gay guy, then just say it. Of course, it's a very popular opinion so that would be weird. If you would like to censor me by deleting my posts, then do that. I don't want you to become weary of me. Just tell me what you'd like for me to do. There are plenty of men here within this forum who will admit that hitting some Tgirls that have not begun actually transitioning, is the equivalent of hitting some effeminate gay guys.

    I really don't know why you appear to be so defensive about this. I certainly do hope that you're not transgender yourself and are taking this personally.

    If you like I won't share my opinion anymore by withdrawing from this forum voluntarily, if you feel as though I am offending people.

    Your call.

    Would you like for me to leave?

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    Where did I say that transsexuals were "gay guys"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred View Post
    So screwing a Tgirl in the booty is "clean", but screwing a gay guy in the booty is "nasty"!

    Just remember, that gay guy that you curse today, could very well be that Tgirl, tomorrow!
    exactly. its totally different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanbred View Post
    What you continue to call my "agenda", is really just my "opinion". If you don't like my opinion that screwing a pre-op Tgirl (who has not undergone HRT), is the equivalent to screwing a gay guy, then just say it. Of course, it's a very popular opinion so that would be weird. If you would like to censor me by deleting my posts, then do that. I don't want you to become weary of me. Just tell me what you'd like for me to do. There are plenty of men here within this forum who will admit that hitting some Tgirls that have not begun actually transitioning, is the equivalent of hitting some effeminate gay guys.

    I really don't know why you appear to be so defensive about this. I certainly do hope that you're not transgender yourself and are taking this personally.

    If you like I won't share my opinion anymore by withdrawing from this forum voluntarily, if you feel as though I am offending people.

    Your call.

    Would you like for me to leave?

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    Where did I say that transsexuals were "gay guys"?

    An opinion is on one subject, you have came up with multiple subjects or chimed in on others topics all around the broader idea that tgirls are just gay guys ... or guys like tgirls are gay as well as being critical towards others tastes/likes. That seems to me like having an agenda and when you've irritated plenty members of this forum, then your "opinion" obviously is going against the grain of the forum. Disgreements, discourse and opinions are all part of the flavour of any forum but personally, I feel like your just a little too much, too much of the time - and that's why I question your background and issues.

    Of course, we know that before a some tgirls gets on her makeup on, hair done and dresses she starts off looking like a guy - and we know there are gay guys who dress just for the sexual "kick", that's never been in question, I daresay we do have a few on this site but that doesn't give you license to start picking and pointing. Most of the girls on this site are transsexuals and no matter where they are in their transition, that's how we identify them as, girls - which is what THEY are wanting - not what you need to define someone as.

    I don't care if you leave or not - what I care about is asking you to think before you post. Your obviously articulate, opinionated and have experience (in something !?!) so have a lot to share, so how about putting some of to use and thinking before you may offend someone, or seeing what this forum IS about before asking questions which may be inappropriate.

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